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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Yang Zhang <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/13] nEPT: Add nEPT violation/misconfigration support
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:11:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F66A0B.20108@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130729123410.GI18009@redhat.com>

Il 29/07/2013 14:34, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
>>>> But I think what you _really_ want is not avoiding conditional branches.
>>> The idea is that it is hard for branch prediction to predict correct
>>> result when correct result depends on guest's page table that can
>>> contain anything, so in some places shadow paging code uses boolean
>>> logic to avoid branches, in this case it is hard to avoid if() anyway
>>> since the function invocation is in the if().
>>
>> Yes, I get the idea, but is_rsvd_bits_set should be predicted unlikely,
>> no?  If the guest has to run, it must use mostly valid ptes. :)
>>
> You see, you are confused and you want branch prediction not to be? :)
> If your guest is KVM is_rsvd_bits_set() will be likely much more then
> unlikely because KVM misconfigures EPT entries to cache MMIO addresses,
> so all the "unlikely" cases will be fixed by shadow pages and will not
> reappear (until shadow pages are zapped), but misconfigured entries will
> continue to produces violations.

But then:

1) MMIO is a slow path anyway, losing 10 cycles on a mispredicted branch
is not going to help much.  Fast page faults are all I would optimize for.

2) in cases like this you just do not use likely/unlikely; the branch
will be very unlikely in the beginning, and very likely once shadow
pages are filled or in the no-EPT case.  Just let the branch predictor
adjust, it will probably do better than boolean tricks.

>> Especially if you change prefetch_invalid_gpte to do the reserved bits
>> test after the present test (so that is_rsvd_bits_set is only called on
>> present pagetables), is_rsvd_bits_set's result should be really
>> well-predicted. 
> Nope, for ept page tables present is not a single bit, it is three bits
> which by themselves can have invalid values.

We're not checking the validity of the bits in the is_present_gpte test,
we're checking it in the is_rsvd_bits_set test (is_present_gpte is doing
just "(pte & 7) != 0").  It doesn't change anything in the outcome of
prefetch_invalid_gpte, and it makes the ordering consistent with
walk_addr_generic which already tests presence before reserved bits.

So doing this swap should be a win anyway.

>>                   At this point (and especially since function invocation
>> is always in "if"s), using boolean logic to avoid branches does not make
>> much sense anymore for this function.
> 
> That's true.

So are you going to change to "if"s?

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-29 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-25 10:59 [PATCH v4 00/13] Nested EPT Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] nEPT: Support LOAD_IA32_EFER entry/exit controls for L1 Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  8:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 13:12     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 14:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] nEPT: Fix cr3 handling in nested exit and entry Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] nEPT: Fix wrong test in kvm_set_cr3 Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  8:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 10:43     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-31  8:02   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] nEPT: Move common code to paging_tmpl.h Gleb Natapov
2013-07-31  8:02   ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-07-31  8:36     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] nEPT: make guest's A/D bits depends on guest's paging mode Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] nEPT: Add EPT tables support to paging_tmpl.h Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  9:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:33     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 11:55       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 12:24         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 13:19           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 13:27             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 14:15               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:14                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 16:28                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:43                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 17:06                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 17:11                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-30 10:03   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-30 11:56     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-30 12:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-30 14:22         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-30 14:36           ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] nEPT: Redefine EPT-specific link_shadow_page() Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] nEPT: Nested INVEPT Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] nEPT: Add nEPT violation/misconfigration support Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  8:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 10:52     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 10:59       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:43         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 12:05           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 12:34             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 13:11               ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-07-29 13:20                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 14:12                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:24                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 16:36                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 16:54                         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] nEPT: MMU context for nested EPT Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] nEPT: Advertise EPT to L1 Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29  9:21   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:11     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-29 11:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 11:35         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 11:00 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] nEPT: Some additional comments Gleb Natapov
2013-07-25 11:00 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] nEPT: Miscelleneous cleanups Gleb Natapov

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