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From: William Manley <william.manley@youview.com>
To: <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <bcrl@kvack.org>, <luky-37@hotmail.com>,
	<sergei.shtylyov@cogentembedded.com>, <bhutchings@solarflare.com>,
	<davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] net: igmp: Reduce Unsolicited report interval to 1s when using IGMPv3
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:39:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F67E88.6030006@youview.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130726163913.GG3890@order.stressinduktion.org>

On 26/07/13 17:39, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 06:32:39PM +0200, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 01:14:04PM +0100, William Manley wrote:
>>> If an IGMP join packet is lost you will not receive data sent to the
>>> multicast group so if no data arrives from that multicast group in a
>>> period of time after the IGMP join a second IGMP join will be sent.  The
>>> delay between joins is the "IGMP Unsolicited Report Interval".
>>>
>>> Previously this value was hard coded to be chosen randomly between 0-10s.
>>> This can be too long for some use-cases, such as IPTV as it can cause
>>> channel change to be slow in the presence of packet loss.
>>>
>>> The value 10s has come from IGMPv2 RFC2236, which was reduced to 1s in
>>> IGMPv3 RFC3376.  This patch makes the kernel use the 1s value from the
>>> later RFC if we are operating in IGMPv3 mode.  IGMPv2 behaviour is
>>> unaffected.
>>>
>>> Tested with Wireshark and a simple program to join a (non-existent)
>>> multicast group.  The distribution of timings for the second join differ
>>> based upon setting /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/force_igmp_version.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Otherwise I am fine with it.
>
> Also, could you have a look at IPv6, too? We currently use a hardcoded
> IGMP6_UNSOLICITED_IVAL = 10*HZ there.

I'll have a look, but I have to admit my ignorance on how multicast 
works with IPv6 and I may have difficulty setting up a test environment.

It seems that IGMP has been replaced with "Multicast Listener Discovery" 
on top of ICMPv6 and much like IGMP there is more than one version:

1. RFC2710 - MLD - Unsolicited Report Interval = 10s
2. RFC3810 - MLDv2 - Unsolicited Report Interval = 1s

There also seems to be a /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/force_mld_version. 
  Ok, so maybe it's not so difficult.  I'll see if I can come up with 
some additional patches but I'd prefer to keep them separate from the 
IPv4 ones which I hope are now good-to-go.

Thanks

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-29 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-22 20:43 IGMP Unsolicited Report Interval too long for IGMPv3? William Manley
2013-07-22 21:09 ` Ben Hutchings
2013-07-24 13:38   ` [PATCH] net: igmp: Reduce Unsolicited report interval to 1s when using IGMPv3 William Manley
2013-07-24 13:45     ` William Manley
2013-07-24 14:51     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-07-25 12:14   ` [PATCH 1/2] " William Manley
2013-07-25 12:14     ` [PATCH 2/2] net: igmp: Allow user-space configuration of igmp unsolicited report interval William Manley
2013-07-26 16:36       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-07-29 14:21         ` [PATCH v3 1/2] net: igmp: Reduce Unsolicited report interval to 1s when using IGMPv3 William Manley
2013-07-29 14:21           ` [PATCH v3 2/2] net: igmp: Allow user-space configuration of igmp unsolicited report interval William Manley
2013-07-30  6:14             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-07-30 23:55               ` David Miller
2013-07-31  6:34                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-07-31  9:47                   ` William Manley
2013-08-06 18:03                   ` IGMP Unsolicited report interval patches William Manley
2013-08-06 18:03                     ` [PATCH v4 1/3] net: igmp: Reduce Unsolicited report interval to 1s when using IGMPv3 William Manley
2013-08-07  0:45                       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-08-07 13:43                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2013-08-06 18:03                     ` [PATCH v4 2/3] net: igmp: Don't flush routing cache when force_igmp_version is modified William Manley
2013-08-07  0:45                       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-08-07 13:43                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2013-08-06 18:03                     ` [PATCH v4 3/3] net: igmp: Allow user-space configuration of igmp unsolicited report interval William Manley
2013-08-07  1:00                       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-08-07 13:43                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2013-08-07  1:03                     ` IGMP Unsolicited report interval patches Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-08-08  9:01                       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-08-09 18:28                     ` David Miller
2013-07-31  5:07             ` [PATCH v3 2/2] net: igmp: Allow user-space configuration of igmp unsolicited report interval Bill Fink
2013-07-29 21:34           ` [PATCH v3 1/2] net: igmp: Reduce Unsolicited report interval to 1s when using IGMPv3 Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-07-26 16:32     ` [PATCH " Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-07-26 16:39       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-07-29 14:39         ` William Manley [this message]
2013-07-29 14:56           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-07-22 21:18 ` IGMP Unsolicited Report Interval too long for IGMPv3? Benjamin LaHaise
2013-07-22 21:51   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-07-25 23:42     ` David Miller
2013-07-26 13:11       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2013-07-26 15:06         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2013-07-26 15:15           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2013-07-22 22:06   ` Lukas Tribus
2013-07-22 22:30     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa

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