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From: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Sudeep KarkadaNagesha <Sudeep.KarkadaNagesha@arm.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	"cpufreq@vger.kernel.org" <cpufreq@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"rob.herring@calxeda.com" <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@arm.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] PM / OPP: add support to specify phandle of another node for OPP
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:58:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F9341E.60102@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130731152925.GP29859@e106331-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 07/31/2013 10:29 AM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 03:46:34PM +0100, Nishanth Menon wrote:
>> On 07/31/2013 06:14 AM, Sudeep KarkadaNagesha wrote:
>>> On 30/07/13 21:48, Nishanth Menon wrote:
>>>> On 07/30/2013 01:34 PM, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>>> On 07/30/2013 12:00 PM, Sudeep KarkadaNagesha wrote:
>>>>>> From: Sudeep KarkadaNagesha <sudeep.karkadanagesha@arm.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If more than one similar devices share the same OPPs, currently we
>>>>>> need to replicate the OPP entries in all the nodes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Few drivers like cpufreq depend on physical cpu0 node to specify the
>>>>>> OPPs and only that node is referred irrespective of the logical cpu
>>>>>> accessing it. Alternatively to support cpuhotplug path, few drivers
>>>>>> parse all the cpu nodes for OPPs. Instead we can specify the phandle
>>>>>> of the node with which the current node shares the operating points.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patch adds support to specify the phandle in the operating points
>>>>>> of any device node, where the node specified by the phandle holds the
>>>>>> actual OPPs.
>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/opp.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/opp.txt
>>>>>
>>>>>> +Optional properties:
>>>>>> +- operating-points-phandle: phandle to the device node with which this
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a funny name. Bikeshedding a bit, how about shared-operating-points?
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't thought at all about whether this change conceptually makes sense.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They may not really be shared- we could have phandle list even. one
>>>> might have optional OPP sets for a chip family that one may  - I was
>>>> about to suggest something similar to pinctrl
>>>>
>>> I am not sure if I follow you here, if each chip family has its unique
>>> set of OPPs, why do we need to represent all of them together ?
>>> IIUC you are thinking about having these in include dts file, used by
>>> multiple chip/board dts.
>>>
>>>> operating-points-names = "default", "performance", "cheapboard-config" ;)
>>>> operating-points-0 = <&...>
>>>> operating-points-1 = <&...>
>>>> operating-points-2 = <&...>
>>>>
>>> This looks more like a PM policy.
>>
>> Let me try to explain since SoCs such as OMAP/AM family dont make life
>> trivial :)..
>>
>> An legacy example[1][2]
>>
>> SoC DM explains that the chip is capable of X opps:
>> opp1, 2 - for all devices
>> opp1,2, 3 - if efuse bit X@y is set
>> opp1,2,3,4 - if efuse bit X@y is set AND Board design meets SoC vendors
>> requirements (including additional features A, B is enabled).
>>
>> So, the same chip family has a hardware feature - not just as a pm
>> policy of selecting among a set of OPPs which opp to work on, but the
>> actual set of OPPs are actually options in themselves that is selected
>> based on board's SoC selection.
>
> This sounds like we're describing a set of features not applicable to
> the device, then removing them, rather than only describing those
> features applicable to the device. If you have to probe to figure out
> which values in the dt are applicable, I'm not sure I see the benefit of
> describing said values in dt.

Device has *options* of operating points sets it can operate at. It is 
not like "these are not applicable" for the device.

DT does have to describe the hardware capability - that was it's entire 
intent. operating points are valid configurations where it can be 
operated at - and when you have options of configurations you need to 
choose from based on the board you are using it on, it still retains 
"hardware behavior" aspect.

Hope that explains.

-- 
Regards,
Nishanth Menon

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-31 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-30 18:00 [RFC PATCH 0/2] PM / OPP: updates to enable sharing OPPs info Sudeep KarkadaNagesha
2013-07-30 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] PM / OPP: add support to specify phandle of another node for OPP Sudeep KarkadaNagesha
2013-07-30 18:34   ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 20:48     ` Nishanth Menon
2013-07-30 21:25       ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-31 11:14       ` Sudeep KarkadaNagesha
2013-07-31 14:46         ` Nishanth Menon
2013-07-31 15:28           ` Sudeep KarkadaNagesha
2013-07-31 15:53             ` Nishanth Menon
2013-07-31 16:40               ` Sudeep KarkadaNagesha
2013-07-31 19:13                 ` Nishanth Menon
2013-07-31 19:55                   ` Nishanth Menon
2013-07-31 15:29           ` Mark Rutland
2013-07-31 15:58             ` Nishanth Menon [this message]
2013-07-31 16:11               ` Mark Rutland
2013-07-31 16:27                 ` Nishanth Menon
2013-08-01 13:54                   ` Mark Rutland
2013-08-01 16:25                     ` Nishanth Menon
2013-08-02 13:15                       ` Mark Rutland
2013-08-06 13:45                         ` Nishanth Menon
2013-08-07 16:17                           ` Mark Rutland
2013-08-20 10:00                             ` Sudeep KarkadaNagesha
2013-08-20 14:01                               ` Nishanth Menon
2013-08-20 16:07                                 ` Sudeep KarkadaNagesha
2013-08-21 22:48                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-22 11:59                                 ` Mark Rutland
2013-08-22 15:32                                   ` Sudeep KarkadaNagesha
2013-08-22 15:50                                     ` Mark Rutland
2013-08-22 16:28                                       ` Sudeep KarkadaNagesha
2013-08-23 12:26                                         ` Mark Rutland
2013-08-01 16:49                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-02 13:43                       ` Sudeep KarkadaNagesha
2013-08-06 13:29                         ` Nishanth Menon
2013-07-31 21:59                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-31 21:59                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-31 21:51           ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01 12:15             ` Nishanth Menon
2013-08-01 16:46               ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-31 10:46     ` Sudeep KarkadaNagesha
2013-07-30 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] PM / OPP: check for existing OPP list when initialising from device tree Sudeep KarkadaNagesha
2013-07-31 16:39   ` Nishanth Menon

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