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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: leroy christophe <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: [PATCH] SPI: Set SPI bits per words in an OF DeviceTree SPI node
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:31:43 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <520BB0EF.2090106@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <520BB064.5070803@c-s.fr>

On 08/14/2013 10:29 AM, leroy christophe wrote:
> 
> Le 14/08/2013 18:19, Stephen Warren a �crit :
>> On 08/14/2013 07:21 AM, leroy christophe wrote:
>>>>> In the node, you then have to include the 'spi-bits' property.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exemple:
>>>>>       fpga-loader@7 {
>>>>>           compatible = "cs,fpga-loader";
>>>>>           spi-max-frequency = <10000000>;
>>>>>           reg = <7>;
>>>>>           spi-cs-high;
>>>>>           spi-bits = <16>;
>>>>>       };
>>>> Shouldn't the driver for cs,fpga-loader be defining how many bit the
>>>> SPI
>>>> transactions should use? If the binding covers HW that can operate at
>>>> various bits-per-word, it's reasonable for those individual bindings to
>>>> define a property that sets that width, but I'm not convinced it's
>>>> reasonable for the SPI core to allow any DT node to specify that, and
>>>> presumably override the SPI device's driver's selection.
>>> This is a tricky question.
>>>
>>> The issue in the CPM (communication co-processor) on the MPC 8xx CPU is
>>> that, when you use the 16 bits mode, the CPM swaps the bytes, so the
>>> driver must unswap them to use them properly.
>>> It looks like their is the same issue with other CPUs, like the MPCs
>>> having the Quick Engine. In the QE driver, it is done simple: the
>>> transfert is forced at 8bits at all time regardless on what the driver
>>> requests. This is known to work well, but I don't want to do that for
>>> the CPM driver, because the 16 bits mode is a lot less CPU consuming
>>> than the 8 bits mode, and my own drivers for my custom components do
>>> work in 16 bits mode (byte swap is included in those drivers).
>> If there's a byte-swap bug in the CPM HW/driver, it should be solved in
>> the CPM driver, not in the drivers that happen to communicate over the
>> CPM driver. As you say below, fixing it in the client drivers is the
>> wrong thing to do, since then they won't work with other SPI controllers.
>>
>> Either way, this doesn't seem like something that should be represented
>> in DT at all; it should be down to the CPM driver to indicate to the SPI
>> sub-system that it doesn't support 16-bit transfers.
>>
>> An in general, your answer in no way addresses why this property should
>> apply to all SPI devices.
>>
>>> That's the reason why I was proposing a way, through the Device Tree, to
>>> select the speed instead of forcing it inside the driver.
>>> Because the MAX7301 driver for instance, which used to force 16 bits
>>> mode, does work perfectly well on the MPC8xx in 8 bits mode, but doesn't
>>> work in 16 bits because it doesn't unswap the bytes.
>>> If I modify that driver to swap the bytes, it will not work anymore on
>>> platforms that don't require bytes to be swapped.
>>>
>>> So, really, I don't know what to do here. Do you have any suggestion ?
>> Drop 16-bit support from the CPM driver if it doesn't work.
>>
> But as I said, I don't want to drop this support from the driver because
> it does work as far as the driver is able to swap the bytes prior.
> My own drivers are swapping the bytes and it works perfectly well.
> I need to keep this capability because it allows a higher transfert
> speed than the 8 bits mode on the CPM (about 6 times), and this is
> important when I have to load a big FPGA on my board.
> But on the other hand I also need drivers like the MAX7301 to work on my
> board.
> This driver works very well when I modify it to force 8 bits mode. But
> in standard, the driver forces itself to 16 bits mode which makes it fail.
> 
> So I need another solution than droping the 16 bits mode from the driver.

Perhaps enhance the SPI subsystem with a new flag/quirk/... that
indicates the host-controller supports byte-swapped 16-bit transactions.


      reply	other threads:[~2013-08-14 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-07 15:44 [PATCH] SPI: Set SPI bits per words in an OF DeviceTree SPI node Christophe Leroy
2013-08-07 15:44 ` Christophe Leroy
2013-08-07 15:54 ` Fwd: " leroy christophe
2013-08-07 16:27   ` Kumar Gala
2013-08-07 16:30   ` Fwd: " Stephen Warren
2013-08-14 13:21     ` leroy christophe
2013-08-14 16:19       ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-14 16:29         ` leroy christophe
2013-08-14 16:31           ` Stephen Warren [this message]

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