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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: Steven Noonan <snoonan@amazon.com>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Matt Wilson <msw@linux.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Matt Wilson <msw@amazon.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Zhigang Wang <zhigang.x.wang@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: xend deprecation
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 10:12:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52284B13.9050704@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130904163318.GB6188@phenom.dumpdata.com>

On 04/09/13 17:33, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 04:34:30PM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
>> On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 16:18 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
>>> <konrad.wilk@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 08:29:07AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 2013-09-03 at 23:06 -0700, Matt Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 09:03:46AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 13:32 -0700, Matt Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> Live migration between a system running xend to a system that doesn't
>>>>>>>> support xend would be a nice-to-have. That probably means some support
>>>>>>>> for SXP parsing either in libxl or in some compatibility tool.
>>>>>>> This already works by using xl on the source side, e.g. a guest started
>>>>>>> with xend on 4.1 can be migrated with 4.1's xl to 4.2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2012-08/msg02191.html
>>>>>> xl doesn't run everywhere that we need it to.
>>>>> Details please, or we aren't going to be able to even think about how to
>>>>> solve this for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW You can also do a xend migration to e.g. 4.2 (using the xend whichis
>>>>> in 4.2) and the use 4.2's xl to do a localhost migrate or a second
>>>>> remote migrate to another 4.2 system.
>>>>>
>>>>> xend's deprecation has been on the cards, and widely known, for several
>>>>> releases now. It is time to quit stalling and start moving. I intend to
>>>>> post a patch deleting it as soon as 4.4 is out the door.
>>>> And I think I might have to lobby hard against removing it.
>> If by lobby you mean "step up to maintain" then please do.
> I can surely do that, but I would prefer to have the issues fixed.

You mean you prefer to have the xl issues fixed? I think we all do; so 
instead of lobbying hard to remove xend, you can lobby hard to get the 
outstanding issues fixed. :-)

  -George

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-05  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-30 23:40 [PATCH] xend: handle extended PCI configuration space when saving state Matt Wilson
2013-09-02  9:53 ` George Dunlap
2013-09-02 20:32   ` xend deprecation [Was: Re: [PATCH] xend: handle extended PCI configuration space when saving state] Matt Wilson
2013-09-03  8:03     ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04  6:06       ` xend deprecation Matt Wilson
2013-09-04  7:29         ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 14:04           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-04 15:18             ` George Dunlap
2013-09-04 15:34               ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 15:43                 ` Ian Jackson
2013-09-12 10:02                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-12 10:15                     ` Processed: " xen
2013-09-12 11:10                     ` Ian Jackson
2013-09-04 15:49                 ` Tim Deegan
2013-09-04 16:17                   ` Ian Jackson
2013-09-04 16:24                     ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 16:33                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-05  9:12                   ` George Dunlap [this message]
2013-09-06 13:36                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-06 13:49                       ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-06 14:01                         ` Jan Beulich
2013-09-06 14:15                           ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-05 10:18                   ` Fabio Fantoni
2013-09-05 10:27                     ` George Dunlap
2013-09-05 10:46                 ` George Dunlap
2013-09-04 16:29               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-12 12:52             ` [PATCH] xl: print runtime info in "xl list -l" Ian Campbell
2013-09-25 17:41               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-25 17:56                 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-25 18:25                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-09-25 17:59                 ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-25 18:27                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-10-28 15:51                     ` Wei Liu
2013-09-12 14:02             ` xend deprecation Ian Campbell
2013-10-21 14:09             ` Wei Liu
2013-10-21 15:13               ` Zhigang Wang
2013-10-21 15:33               ` Ian Campbell
2013-10-21 15:35               ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 12:57         ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-09-12  9:50     ` Support for xm create -F (sxp configuration files) Ian Campbell
2013-09-12 10:00       ` Processed: " xen
2013-09-16 16:49       ` Matt Wilson
2013-11-05 14:39         ` Ian Campbell
2013-11-05 14:45           ` Processed: " xen
2013-09-03 16:33 ` [PATCH] xend: handle extended PCI configuration space when saving state Ian Campbell
2013-09-04  6:12   ` Matt Wilson
2013-09-04  6:47     ` Noonan, Steven
2013-09-04  7:30       ` Ian Campbell
2013-09-04 10:14   ` Ian Jackson

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