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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.a@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 2/2] hw/pci: handle unassigned pci addresses
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 21:04:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <522E1BA3.90906@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_wCG1Xr6qbJe1Art=GtgP4OjVDp5MsWkYkT05KWSVFFg@mail.gmail.com>

On 2013-09-09 20:59, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 9 September 2013 19:49, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com> wrote:
>> Well, even if you resolve the locking issues in all the interesting
>> devices (not impossible, just pretty costly in several regards), you
>> cannot reasonably allow device A talking to device B triggering a
>> request on A issuing a command to B... in the general case. If such
>> recursions are programmable, we need to stop them before QEMU's stack
>> explodes.
> 
> Typically on real hardware configuring things this way causes
> either (a) a memory transaction abort or (b) a deadlock. I
> think we could reasonably model that by deadlocking our
> device model, though as you say we should avoid actually
> crashing :-)

If the deadlock makes the QEMU process unresponsive for management
software that tries to reset the machine, or emulated hardware watchdogs...

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RTC ITP SES-DE
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-09 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-09 11:11 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 0/3] pci: complete master abort protocol Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 11:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 1/2] memory: allow MemoryRegion's priority field to accept negative values Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 11:28   ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 12:03     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 11:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 2/2] hw/pci: handle unassigned pci addresses Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 11:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 12:11     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 12:23       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 12:43         ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 12:52           ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 12:59             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 13:02               ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 13:15                 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 13:19                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 13:29                     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 13:39                       ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 14:04                         ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 14:21                           ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 14:51                             ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 14:58                               ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 16:00                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 16:02                                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 16:34                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 16:54                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2013-09-09 16:58                                         ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 17:09                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2013-09-09 17:14                                             ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 17:27                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2013-09-09 17:37                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 17:41                                                 ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 18:06                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2013-09-09 18:11                                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-09 19:35                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 18:03                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-09 18:49                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2013-09-09 18:59                                                     ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 19:04                                                       ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2013-09-09 19:27                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 19:31                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 15:54                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 14:04                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 14:16                         ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 13:59                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 13:07             ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 13:16               ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-09 13:44                 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-10 12:39                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-10 12:50                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-10 13:02                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-10 13:12                       ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-10 14:11                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-15  7:14                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-15 10:56                           ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-15 11:05                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-15 11:23                               ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-15 12:17                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-15 13:24                                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-15 13:39                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-15 13:49                                       ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-15 14:08                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-15 14:08                                           ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-15 14:20                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-15 14:49                                               ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-15 15:05                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-15 15:08                                                   ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-15 15:31                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-15 17:12                                                       ` Peter Maydell
2013-09-15  9:29                         ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2013-09-09 14:01               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 13:58           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-09 14:10             ` Marcel Apfelbaum

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