From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Calvin Walton <calvin.walton@kepstin.ca>
Cc: Julian Andres Klode <jak@jak-linux.org>, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Please help: Is ext4 counting trims as writes, or is something killing my SSD?
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:18:11 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5231DB33.9090104@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1378997643.28638.53.camel@hp-a6734f>
On 9/12/13 9:54 AM, Calvin Walton wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-09-12 at 16:18 +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I installed my new laptop on Saturday and setup an ext4 filesystem
>> on my / and /home partitions. Without me doing much file transfers,
>> I noticed today:
>>
>> jak@jak-x230:~$ cat /sys/fs/ext4/sdb3/lifetime_write_kbytes
>> 342614039
>>
>> This is on a 100GB partition. I used fstrim multiple times. I analysed
>> the increase over some time today and issued an fstrim in between:
> <snip>
>> So it seems that ext4 counts the trims as writes? I don't know how I could
>> get 300GB of writes on a 100GB partition -- of which only 8 GB are occupied
>> -- otherwise.
>
> The way fstrim works is that it allocates a temporary file that fills
> almost the entire free space on the partition.
No, that's not correct.
> I believe it does this
> with fallocate in order to ensure that space for the file is actually
> reserved on disc (but it does not get written to!). It then looks up
> where on disc the file's reserved space is, and sends a trim command to
> the drive to free that space. Afterwards, it deletes the temporary file.
Nope. ;) strace it and see, it does nothing like this - it calls a special
ioctl to ask the fs to find and issue discards on unused blocks.
# strace -e open,write,fallocate,unlink,ioctl fstrim mnt/
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
open("/lib64/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3
open("/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY) = 3
open("mnt/", O_RDONLY) = 3
ioctl(3, 0xc0185879, 0x7fff6ac47d40) = 0 <=== FITRIM ioctl
(old hdparm discard might have done what you say, but that was a hack).
> So what you are seeing means means that it's probably just an issue with
> the write accounting, where the blocks reserved by the fallocate are
> counted as writes.
I also think that it is just accounting, and probably just an error,
which seems to be fixed by now - what kernel are you running?
When you report it in ext4, it calculates it like this:
return snprintf(buf, PAGE_SIZE, "%llu\n",
(unsigned long long)(sbi->s_kbytes_written +
((part_stat_read(sb->s_bdev->bd_part, sectors[1]) -
EXT4_SB(sb)->s_sectors_written_start) >> 1)));
so it counts partition stats in the mix (outside of ext4's accounting)
On io completion, we add the bytes "completed" (blk_account_io_completion())
And it sounds like it's counting trim/discard completions in the mix.
does /proc/diskstats show a jump for your partition after an fstrim as well?
But what kernel are you running? I don't see it on a 3.11 kernel:
After a fresh mkfs I'm at:
[root@bp-05 tmp]# dumpe2fs -h fsfile | grep Lifetime
dumpe2fs 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
Lifetime writes: 8135 MB
and then several fstrims don't budge it:
[root@bp-05 tmp]# cat /sys/fs/ext4/loop0/lifetime_write_kbytes
8330683
[root@bp-05 tmp]# fstrim mnt/
[root@bp-05 tmp]# cat /sys/fs/ext4/loop0/lifetime_write_kbytes
8330683
[root@bp-05 tmp]# fstrim mnt/
[root@bp-05 tmp]# cat /sys/fs/ext4/loop0/lifetime_write_kbytes
8330683
-Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-12 15:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-12 14:18 Please help: Is ext4 counting trims as writes, or is something killing my SSD? Julian Andres Klode
2013-09-12 14:26 ` Julian Andres Klode
2013-09-12 14:54 ` Calvin Walton
2013-09-12 15:03 ` Julian Andres Klode
2013-09-12 15:18 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2013-09-12 15:29 ` Calvin Walton
2013-09-12 15:33 ` Eric Sandeen
2013-09-12 15:32 ` Julian Andres Klode
2013-09-12 15:52 ` Eric Sandeen
2013-09-12 18:47 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-13 13:41 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-13 13:38 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-12 15:19 ` Julian Andres Klode
2013-09-12 15:28 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-12 15:29 ` Lukáš Czerner
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