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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>
Cc: rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, kernel-team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 bpf-next 06/10] tracepoint: compute num_args at build time
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:55:45 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <523311773.184.1522079745421.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5bcacdb5-e72f-b67a-4884-61fcedf0938a@fb.com>

----- On Mar 26, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Alexei Starovoitov ast@fb.com wrote:

> On 3/26/18 8:14 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> ----- On Mar 26, 2018, at 11:02 AM, rostedt rostedt@goodmis.org wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 19:30:34 -0700
>>> Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
>>>>
>>>> add fancy macro to compute number of arguments passed into tracepoint
>>>> at compile time and store it as part of 'struct tracepoint'.
>>>> The number is necessary to check safety of bpf program access that
>>>> is coming in subsequent patch.
>>>>
>>>> for_each_tracepoint_range() api has no users inside the kernel.
>>>> Make it more useful with ability to stop for_each() loop depending
>>>> via callback return value.
>>>> In such form it's used in subsequent patch.
>>>
>>> I believe this is used by LTTng.
>>
>> Indeed, and by SystemTAP as well.
>>
>> What justifies the need to stop mid-iteration ? A less intrusive alternative
>> would be to use the "priv" data pointer to keep state telling further calls
>> to return immediately. Does performance of iteration over tracepoints really
>> matter here so much that stopping iteration immediately is worth it ?
> 
> I'm sure both you and Steven are not serious when you object
> to _in-tree_ change to for_each_kernel_tracepoint() that
> affects _out-of_tree_ modules?
> 
> Just change your module to 'return NULL' instead of plain 'return'.

I never said I objected to adapt the LTTng out of tree code. If there is a
solid reason for changing the kernel API, I will adapt my code to those
changes.

What I'm trying to understand here is whether there is solid ground for
the added complexity you are proposing. Is it a performance enhancement ?
If so, explanation of the use cases targeted, and numbers that measure
performance improvements are needed.

How is your patch making tracepoints "more useful" ?

Thanks,

Mathieu


-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-26 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-24  2:30 [PATCH v5 bpf-next 00/10] bpf, tracing: introduce bpf raw tracepoints Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-24  2:30 ` [PATCH v5 bpf-next 01/10] treewide: remove large struct-pass-by-value from tracepoint arguments Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-24  2:30 ` [PATCH v5 bpf-next 02/10] net/mediatek: disambiguate mt76 vs mt7601u trace events Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-24  2:30 ` [PATCH v5 bpf-next 03/10] net/mac802154: disambiguate mac80215 vs mac802154 " Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-24  2:30 ` [PATCH v5 bpf-next 04/10] net/wireless/iwlwifi: fix iwlwifi_dev_ucode_error tracepoint Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-24  2:30 ` [PATCH v5 bpf-next 05/10] macro: introduce COUNT_ARGS() macro Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-24  2:30 ` [PATCH v5 bpf-next 06/10] tracepoint: compute num_args at build time Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-26 15:02   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-26 15:02     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-26 15:14     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-26 15:42       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-26 15:42         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-26 15:55         ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2018-03-26 16:08           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-26 16:17             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-26 16:25               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-26 16:35                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-26 16:47                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-26 17:04                     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-26 16:57                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-26 17:55                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-26 18:11                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-26 18:39                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-26 18:48                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-26 21:27                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-26 15:56   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-26 15:56     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-26 16:31     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-26 16:31       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-24  2:30 ` [PATCH v5 bpf-next 07/10] bpf: introduce BPF_RAW_TRACEPOINT Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-24  2:30 ` [PATCH v5 bpf-next 08/10] libbpf: add bpf_raw_tracepoint_open helper Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-24  2:30 ` [PATCH v5 bpf-next 09/10] samples/bpf: raw tracepoint test Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-24  2:30 ` [PATCH v5 bpf-next 10/10] selftests/bpf: test for bpf_get_stackid() from raw tracepoints Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-24  2:35 ` [PATCH v5 bpf-next 00/10] bpf, tracing: introduce bpf " Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-26  8:28 ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-26 15:04   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-26 15:32     ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-26 15:47       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-26 16:00         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-26 16:00           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-03-26 16:16           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-26 16:16             ` Steven Rostedt

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