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From: Sekhar Nori <nsekhar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
To: Tony Lindgren <tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] mmc: omap_hsmmc: get rid of ti,non-removable
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:55:32 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5236F8BC.1000305@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130913153732.GO7189-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>

On Friday 13 September 2013 09:07 PM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> * Sekhar Nori <nsekhar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org> [130913 03:18]:
>> Get rid of TI specific binding ti,non-removable in favour of the
>> generic binding present for the same purpose.
> 
> Looks like there's a different handling in the MMC driver
> for no_regulator_off_init that's needed for eMMC. That needs to
> be sorted out and tested first.

Okay. I couldn't really get the eMMC on my board to detect, but
apparently Koen has been able to get it to work. I am not really deep
into details of HSMMC driver so will check with Balaji on what needs to
be done here.

>> This patch set does not support the old binding anymore. So, yes,
>> it does introduce an ABI breakage. IMHO, it is not really worth
>> supporting both bindings ATM since DT-usage in OMAP is still very
>> nascent and almost always DTB and uImage are upgraded together.
> 
> The old bindings must be supported. It's not like we can just drop
> them. We should just keep the old binding and parse it the same way
> as the generic binding. That's a minimal amount of code.

Yes, its minimal amount of code but its code that will very likely never
get exercised in future because of the reasons I mentioned above. I fear
in time we will accumulate a lot of unused code this way.

Anyway, since you don't feel its okay to remove the old binding, I will
go ahead and mark the old binding as deprecated. But perhaps we can
come-up with some time frame within which users of old .dtb can upgrade
their .dtb or consider never upgrading to a newer kernel? This sounds
eerily similar to feature-removal-schedule.txt and yeah I am aware of
what happened to that. But I still put it here since this problem of DTB
compatibility is not going to go away.

One thing that might help is a kernel configuration that does not
support deprecated bindings so users of old dtbs can actually see what
deprecated bindings they are using. This way they can probably plan for
a dtb upgrade better. So in driver you would do something like:

	if (of_support_deprecated_bindings() &&
	    of_find_property(np, "ti,non-removable", NULL)) {
		.. do something ..
	}

of_support_deprecated_bindings() would return based on a config option.

Thanks,
Sekhar

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-16 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-13 10:09 [PATCH 0/3] mmc: omap_hsmmc: get rid of ti,non-removable Sekhar Nori
2013-09-13 10:09 ` [PATCH 1/3] mmc: omap_hsmmc: remove TI specific DT binding for non removable cards Sekhar Nori
     [not found] ` <cover.1379066249.git.nsekhar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-13 10:09   ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: OMAP2+: DT: start using generic binding for non-removable mmc cards Sekhar Nori
2013-09-13 10:09   ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM: OMAP2+: BBB DT: mark eMMC as non removable Sekhar Nori
     [not found]     ` <f77adcf96d225b43e38058ddadcab76a9df6914a.1379066249.git.nsekhar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-13 10:11       ` Koen Kooi
2013-09-13 11:03       ` Sekhar Nori
2013-09-13 15:37   ` [PATCH 0/3] mmc: omap_hsmmc: get rid of ti,non-removable Tony Lindgren
     [not found]     ` <20130913153732.GO7189-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-13 22:07       ` Balaji T K
     [not found]         ` <52338CB2.1040100-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16 12:35           ` Sekhar Nori
2013-09-16 12:25       ` Sekhar Nori [this message]
2013-09-18 18:58         ` Tony Lindgren

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