From: Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>
To: Philip Balister <philip@balister.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Alan Tull <atull@altera.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@altera.com>,
Alessandro Rubini <rubini@gnudd.com>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <m.chehab@samsung.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Cesar Eduardo Barros <cesarb@cesarb.net>,
Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
David Brown <davidb@codeaurora.org>,
Dom Cobley <popcornmix@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] fpga: Introduce new fpga subsystem
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:43:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5242F695.2070506@monstr.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5242F2EF.2050900@balister.org>
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On 09/25/2013 04:27 PM, Philip Balister wrote:
> On 09/25/2013 08:00 AM, Pavel Machek wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>>>> The firmware approach is interesting. It might be less flexible
>>>>> compared with my original code (see link to git below) that this is
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand... that's the interface world wants, right? To most
>>>> users, fpga bitstream is just a firmware.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, not really.
>>>
>>> The typical assumption with the firmware interface is that there is
>>> exactly one possible firmware for each device (possibly modulated by
>>> driver version, but still.)
>>
>> Actually, I have seen counterexample there, too. Wifi card had
>> different firmware for host and access points mode, probably because
>> internal RAM could not fit both at same time.
>
> And another counter example ...
>
> For the Zynq based product I am working on, we encourage the end user to
> create their own bitstreams to customize their application. So we need
> an easy way for the user to load a bitstream. cat foo.bin > /dev/xdevcfg
> works well for us.
You probably don't care if this will be
cat foo.bin > /sys/fpga/fpga0/<whatever>
(for zynq case you can also run)
cat foo.bit > /sys/fpga/fpga0/<whatever>
FYI: Current driver in xilinx repo supports bit format too.
> Then we need to make sure that the interface supports partial
> reconfiguration.
That will be next step.
> That said, having a sane user api that addresses the various fpga use
> cases would be a win for use since we would not need to write custom
> user space code for every platform created in the future. I'd like to
> see this api work with things like PCI based FPGA cards and discrete
> fpgas that are not integrated with an arm etc.
I don't have any PCI based FPGA card to have information how to work with
it but for discrete fpga I have one application note where jtag is emulated
by gpio interface and you can program another fpga from zynq (This can
be probably generic case for any combination in this 4 pin connection).
Thanks,
Michal
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-25 14:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-18 15:56 [RFC PATCH 0/1] FPGA subsystem core Michal Simek
2013-09-18 15:56 ` [RFC PATCH] fpga: Introduce new fpga subsystem Michal Simek
2013-09-18 16:11 ` Joe Perches
2013-09-19 10:01 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 16:26 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-18 19:02 ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-09-19 11:53 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-18 19:15 ` Jason Cooper
2013-09-18 20:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-09-18 21:17 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-19 10:08 ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 11:02 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-20 20:55 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 15:55 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 15:58 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-24 16:22 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 22:18 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-09-25 13:55 ` Yves Vandervennet
2013-09-25 14:51 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-25 18:50 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-24 22:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-25 10:41 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-25 12:00 ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-25 14:27 ` Philip Balister
2013-09-25 14:43 ` Michal Simek [this message]
2013-09-25 19:21 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-19 10:55 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 11:17 ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 11:22 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 12:52 ` /sys rules " Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 14:06 ` Greg KH
2013-09-19 14:10 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 14:18 ` Greg KH
2013-09-19 15:14 ` Alan Tull
2013-09-19 14:20 ` Jason Cooper
2013-09-19 14:37 ` Greg KH
2013-09-19 22:48 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <CADuitaA3PLaOgmqXzfMdMDaXg7G6bT-DufjcuhtWfvaoWRj__Q@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-19 15:14 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 15:18 ` Yves Vandervennet
2013-09-19 17:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-09-23 13:10 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-23 17:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-09-25 10:48 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-23 13:02 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-19 10:03 ` Pavel Machek
2013-09-19 10:45 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-27 13:31 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-30 17:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-01 15:59 ` Michal Simek
2013-09-18 23:45 ` Ryan Mallon
2013-09-19 11:37 ` Michal Simek
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