From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [64.233.182.191] (helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IyuUp-0000cG-6S for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:28:55 +0100 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so2279966nfh for ; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 11:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.201.2 with SMTP id y2mr831003huf.1196623533184; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 11:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.6? ( [85.99.157.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h7sm10992646nfh.2007.12.02.11.25.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 02 Dec 2007 11:25:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:27:34 +0200 From: Paul Sokolovsky X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.64.01 Christmas Edition) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <525897579.20071202212734@gmail.com> To: Rod Whitby In-Reply-To: <475283BC.2030903@whitby.id.au> References: <47520EA7.8030507@whitby.id.au> <47526A83.30109@student.utwente.nl> <475283BC.2030903@whitby.id.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org Subject: Re: RFC: Inclusion of bootloader utilities in task-base X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:28:55 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Rod, Sunday, December 2, 2007, 12:06:52 PM, you wrote: > Koen Kooi wrote: >> Rod Whitby schreef: >>> Some MACHINE configurations have FEATURES defined for 'uboot' and >>> 'redboot'. It looks like these are intended to identify the bootloader >>> used on that machine. >> >>> These turn on additions to RDEPENDS in task-base for some bootloader >>> utilities. >> >>> RFC #2: Shouldn't these be RRECOMMENDS unless they are absolutely >>> critical, so that you can ipkg remove them if you don't want them. >> >> I'm not familiar with the finer points of bootloaders, so I'm not really >> qualified to respond to this, but if the utils are _critical_, they >> should be RDEPENDS in task-boot, not task base. > Agreed. In the case of redboot and apex, they are not that critical. > The redboot util 'fis' is used to reflash fis directory partitions. > The apex util 'apex-env' is used to change the kernel cmdline from userspace. This raises the question if user should be allowed (far less required) to change bootloader's standard cmdline as *the normal course of using distro* (== task-base). So, maybe the 1st choice ("Is it good idea at all") is worth more attention. > Dunno about the uboot util package. > -- Rod -- Best regards, Paul mailto:pmiscml@gmail.com