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From: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Terje Bergström"
	<tbergstrom-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org"
	<dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 27/27] drm/tegra: Add Tegra114 gr2d support
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 09:19:18 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <525D5CF6.3020600@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131015083731.GI7856-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>

On 10/15/2013 02:37 AM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:14:47PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 10/14/2013 08:00 AM, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 08:58:34AM +0300, Terje Bergström
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 12.10.2013 01:43, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>>> On 10/07/2013 02:34 AM, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>>>>> The gr2d hardware in Tegra114 is compatible with that of 
>>>>>> Tegra20 and Tegra30. No functionaly changes are
>>>>>> required.
>>>>> Similarly here, if the HW is 100% backwards-compatible,
>>>>> there's no need to add compatible values to the driver.
>>>> 
>>>> We've used this mechanism for attaching a per-hw-version
>>>> data structure in match table to accomodate differences in
>>>> how the hardware is power gated, reset, booted, some per-soc
>>>> performance related changes etc. It's also used in staging
>>>> features for new chips, such as disabling power features when
>>>> they're not working/verified yet.
>>>> 
>>>> Upstream driver is not yet in a state where that is
>>>> relevant.
>>>> 
>>>> With this, would we still be able to do that with match
>>>> table? It sounds like we could, because we can still (even
>>>> with multiple compatible properties) add separate entries in
>>>> match table and I guess the compatible properties matched in
>>>> order.
>>> 
>>> Yes, as long as the device tree files includes the most
>>> specific value in the compatible this should still be possible.
>>> So we'd have this:
>>> 
>>> gr2d@54140000 { compatible = "nvida,tegra114-gr2d", 
>>> "nvidia,tegra20-gr2d"; ... };
>>> 
>>> and the driver will match on "nvidia,tegra20-gr2d" if the more 
>>> specific "nvidia,tegra114-gr2d" is not there. When the driver
>>> is updated to support Tegra114 specific functionality, then a
>>> more specific entry can be added to the compatible table to
>>> handle it.
>> 
>> True, but the DT fragment above is also only accurate /if/ a
>> driver that only knows about "nvidia,tegra20-gr2d" can operate
>> 100% of the features in Tegra20 HW on Tegra114 HW forever.
> 
> Yes, but given that we also list "nvidia,tegra114-gr2d" in the
> property it will be possible to add that to the driver when new
> functionality is implemented and immediately take advantage of it
> on Tegra114 hardware with an old device tree file which has both
> compatible values.

Taking advantage of new functionality isn't the issue. The issue is
whether a driver that was written purely to the spec of Tegra20 can
successfully operate on the HW. If it can't, then the HW is not
compatible with Tegra20. Terje's previous comments sounded like the HW
is not backwards-compatible, although his more recent comments make it
sound like only SW policy differences, which shouldn't be part of DT
anyway.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-15 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-07  8:34 [PATCH v2 00/27] drm/tegra: Repatriation and DSI support Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <1381134884-5816-1-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 01/27] drm/tegra: Remove unused fields Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 02/27] drm/tegra: Cleanup tegra_dc structure Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 03/27] drm/tegra: Rename host1x_drm structure to tegra_drm Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 04/27] drm/tegra: Rename host1x_drm_file to tegra_drm_file Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 05/27] drm/tegra: Rename host1x_drm_context to tegra_drm_context Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 06/27] gpu: host1x: Cleanup includes Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381134884-5816-7-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-08  5:59       ` Terje Bergström
     [not found]         ` <52539F5E.1060005-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-08  9:45           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 07/27] gpu: host1x: Do not discard .remove() Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 08/27] drm/tegra: gr2d: Miscellaneous cleanups Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381134884-5816-9-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-07 11:34       ` Erik Faye-Lund
     [not found]         ` <CABPQNSbkS40_jyGz14s08+x3e+-pxnfy90V7pzAOfiqUF2ma2g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-07 12:14           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20131007121452.GA8324-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-07 12:52               ` Terje Bergström
     [not found]                 ` <5252AE8C.9090609-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-07 13:05                   ` Erik Faye-Lund
     [not found]                     ` <CABPQNSa59hBU__yjQMZsdEghpSwH1ayJYiD6HrBrhABicgzxuA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-08  5:36                       ` Terje Bergström
2013-10-07 13:13                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-07 12:53               ` Erik Faye-Lund
     [not found]                 ` <CABPQNSb52HmS-2T=MUXteMFc1tndHdvtUnZqsVsPKjP1Dy6Esw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-07 13:02                   ` Erik Faye-Lund
     [not found]                     ` <CABPQNSZGyuS3wAvJ8fFj=LMXxFJz9x_sKqEWW7QbiqC1gneLKw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-08  5:48                       ` Terje Bergström
     [not found]                         ` <52539CC0.3020901-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-08 11:11                           ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 09/27] drm/tegra: gem: " Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 10/27] gpu: host1x: Make host1x header file public Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 11/27] drm/tegra: Introduce tegra_drm_client structure Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 12/27] gpu: host1x: Expose syncpt and channel functionality Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 13/27] drm/tegra: Move subdevice infrastructure to host1x Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381134884-5816-14-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-08  6:25       ` Terje Bergström
     [not found]         ` <5253A563.1060409-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-08  9:52           ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-04 10:20       ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]         ` <20131104102054.GD4167-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-04 11:06           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20131104110655.GN27445-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-04 16:08               ` Daniel Vetter
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 14/27] drm/tegra: Move driver to DRM tree Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381134884-5816-15-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11 22:11       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <52587797.7000402-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-12 11:16           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 15/27] gpu: host1x: Add support for Tegra114 Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381134884-5816-16-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11 22:13       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <525877F3.9070004-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-12 11:24           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-14  5:30             ` Terje Bergström
     [not found]               ` <525B8174.4000907-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15  8:05                 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-14 18:07             ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]               ` <525C32E5.2020406-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15  8:03                 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 16/27] drm/tegra: Add Tegra114 display controller support Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381134884-5816-17-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11 22:14       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <52587843.9070806-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-12 11:32           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-14 18:05             ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]               ` <525C325E.2090700-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15  8:06                 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 17/27] drm/tegra: Add Tegra114 HDMI support Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381134884-5816-18-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11 22:19       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <52587967.6050806-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11 22:22           ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]             ` <52587A16.7050200-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-12 11:35               ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-12 11:41           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-14 18:10             ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]               ` <525C338D.50801-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15  8:13                 ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                   ` <20131015081318.GG7856-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15 15:17                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 18/27] drm/tegra: hdmi: Detect DVI-only displays Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 19/27] host1x: hdmi: Enable VDD earlier for hotplug/DDC Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 20/27] drm/tegra: hdmi: Rename tegra{2,3} to tegra{20,30} Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 21/27] drm: Add panel support Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 22/27] drm/panel: Add simple " Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381134884-5816-23-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11 22:33       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <52587CBD.8010304-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-14 14:10           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 23/27] drm/tegra: Implement " Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 24/27] drm/tegra: Start connectors with correct DPMS mode Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 25/27] gpu: host1x: Add MIPI pad calibration support Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381134884-5816-26-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11 22:37       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <52587DAF.9080003-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-14 13:44           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 26/27] drm/tegra: Add DSI support Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381134884-5816-27-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11 22:43       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <52587F17.7060104-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-14 13:55           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20131014135548.GB16302-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-14 18:16               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                 ` <525C3510.60802-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15  8:33                   ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                     ` <20131015083342.GH7856-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15 17:21                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                         ` <525D7983.6010001-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-16  8:40                           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                             ` <20131016084031.GB21963-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-16 16:58                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-07  8:34   ` [PATCH v2 27/27] drm/tegra: Add Tegra114 gr2d support Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381134884-5816-28-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11 22:43       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <52587F2D.9070007-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-14  5:58           ` Terje Bergström
     [not found]             ` <525B880A.7090802-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-14 14:00               ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                 ` <20131014140010.GC16302-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-14 18:14                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                     ` <525C3497.6010700-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15  5:51                       ` Terje Bergström
     [not found]                         ` <525CD7F3.10907-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15 15:12                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-15  8:37                       ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                         ` <20131015083731.GI7856-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15 15:19                           ` Stephen Warren [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <525D5CF6.3020600-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-16  8:48                               ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                 ` <20131016084804.GC21963-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-16 12:05                                   ` Terje Bergström
2013-10-16 17:00                                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-14 18:13               ` Stephen Warren

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