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From: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Hiroshi Doyu <hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 01/19] [HACK] of: dev_node has struct device pointer
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 10:35:24 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <527286CC.9080404@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131031.101232.80781047726461143.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On 10/31/2013 02:12 AM, Hiroshi Doyu wrote:
> Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org> wrote @ Wed, 30 Oct 2013 22:58:58 +0100:
> 
>> On 10/25/2013 03:11 AM, Thierry Reding wrote:
>> ...
>>> So my proposed solution for the IOMMU case is to treat it the same
>>> as any other resources. Perhaps resource isn't the right word, but
>>> at the core the issue is the same. A device requires the services
>>> of an IOMMU so that it can be put into the correct address space.
>>> If the IOMMU is not available yet it cannot do that, so we simply
>>> return -EPROBE_DEFER and cause the probe to be retried later.
>>
>> Personally, I view deferred probe as being used when one device
>> requires either a resource /or/ a service provided by another, not
>> /just/ when there's a resource dependency. Hence, I think it fits
>> perfectly here.
>>
>> So I agree with Thierry: In other words, I think the solution is for
>> all devices that are affected by an IOMMU to have a property such as:
>>
>> iommu = <&iommu_phandle iommu_specifier>;
> 
> Agree
> 
>> (and the DT node for the IOMMU will contain e.g. an #iommu-cells property)
> 
> As explained in another mail[1], "#iommu-cells" could vary, depending
> on a device since it's arbitral number of arguments(IDs) right
> now. This could be a fixed size of bitmap(64), 2 cells since we know
> "64" would be enough in the future as well as below.

So, a device can generate transactions using n different IDs, yet those
IDs all fit into some specific number of bits if represented as a
bitmask rather than a list. The size of that bitmask would be a good
candidate for #iommu-cells.

...
> 	smmu: iommu {
> 	      #iommu-cells = <2>;
> 	};
> 
> 	deviceA {
> 	       iommu = <&smmu 0x00000000 0x00000040>;
> 	};
> 
> 	deviceB {
> 	       iommu = <&smmu 0x00000000 0x00000104>;
> 	};

So yes, that seems like a reasonable representation.

> But then we cannot use SWGROUP ID "macros" in DT files since DTC
> cannot perse OR("|") operations as below. Or can we?
...
> 	deviceB {
> 	       iommu = <&smmu  SWGROUP_ID_A | SWGROUP_ID_B>;
> 	};

dtc now supports math expressions. You need to wrap expressions in ()
for them to be recognized, so if you write the above as:

	       iommu = <&smmu (SWGROUP_ID_A | SWGROUP_ID_B)>;

... it should work fine.

> So I thought that arbitral length of arguments may be easier to read as
> below:
...
> 	deviceB {
> 	       iommu = <&smmu SWGROUP_ID_A
> 	       	       	      SWGROUP_ID_B>;
> 	};

The problem with that is that it doesn't allow for multiple IOMMUs to be
represented by one property. You need a fixed number (e.g. #iommu-cells)
of cells after the phandle in order to know where one IOMMU specifier
ends, and the next phandle/specifier starts. While multiple IOMMUs is
likely quite rare, I see no reason to force a lack of support for that
scenario by ignoring the standard phandle/fixed-length-specifier
property format.

>> ... and for the driver to explicitly parse that property, and wait
>> until the driver for iommu_phandle is ready. Exactly the same as any
>> other resource/service dependency.
>>
>> That will solve all the problems.
>>
>> The only downside is that every driver needs to contain code to parse
>> that property. However, I think that's just one function call; the
>> actual implementation of that function can be unified somewhere inside
>> core code in drivers/iommu/.
> 
> Yes, but only missing part now is that, we could do this with
> "bus_notifier", but the current bus_notifier doesn't have the feature
> to return error(-EPROBE_DEFER). This could be modified so that
> bus_notifier could return (-EPROBE_DEFER) to postpone
> probing. Alternatively this could be done in some core probe code as
> well as Thierry pointed out.
> 
> [1] In the reply of "[PATCHv3 14/19] iommu/tegra: smmu: Get "nvidia,memory-clients" from DT"

I think this should be done explicitly in drivers. It's much simpler,
and doesn't encode any knowledge of driver-specific bindings into some
common bus notifier code.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-31 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-18 10:26 [PATCHv3 00/19] Unifying SMMU driver among Tegra SoCs Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found] ` <1382092020-13170-1-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 01/19] [HACK] of: dev_node has struct device pointer Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1382092020-13170-2-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24  8:55       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]         ` <20131024085531.680A4C4039D-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24  9:21           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]             ` < 20131025001038.77299C403B6@trevor.secretlab.ca>
     [not found]             ` <20131024.122115.1035609747068925560.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24  9:36               ` Kumar Gala
     [not found]                 ` <3E007970-C2E3-4A2E-B2E3-8388DB7A98F9-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25  0:12                   ` Grant Likely
2013-10-25  0:10               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                 ` <20131025001038.77299C403B6-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25  7:56                   ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                     ` <20131025075652.GB19622-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25  8:22                       ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                         ` <20131025.112202.47792301040951621.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25 13:20                           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                             ` <20131025132051.GD9999-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25 13:46                               ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-30 21:47                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-25  8:25                       ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                         ` <20131025.112549.2040849946958069337.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25  9:11                           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                             ` <20131025091104.GG19622-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25  9:49                               ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                                 ` <20131025.124905.1154427805530939055.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25 10:49                                   ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                     ` <20131025104937.GA25080-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25 11:08                                       ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-25 19:01                                       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                         ` <20131025190136.D55F5C403A7-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-28  7:31                                           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                             ` <20131028073133.GA6629-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12  7:17                                               ` Grant Likely
2013-10-30 21:58                               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                 ` <52718122.9000206-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30 22:41                                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-31  8:14                                     ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                                       ` <20131031.101405.2229107340254709582.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 16:37                                         ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                           ` <52728754.60307-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 16:49                                             ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-01  9:53                                             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                               ` <20131101095349.GI27864-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 10:09                                                 ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-31  8:12                                   ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                                     ` <20131031.101232.80781047726461143.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 16:35                                       ` Stephen Warren [this message]
     [not found]                                         ` <527286CC.9080404-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 16:46                                           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                                             ` <20131031.184603.979300613649357798.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 17:53                                               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                                 ` <52729912.9050800-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01  6:49                                                   ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                                                     ` <20131101084909.5ed79987aa3aeb13b14e3f08-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01  9:52                                                       ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                                         ` <20131101095223.GH27864-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 10:05                                                           ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-01 21:44                                                       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-06 14:06                                                       ` [RFC][PATCHv3+ 1/2] driver/core: Add of_iommu_attach() Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-06 14:06                                                         ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                                                         ` <20131106160623.2cb72f91cd071e555d0d4b9a-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-08 13:14                                                           ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-01  9:46                                                   ` [PATCHv3 01/19] [HACK] of: dev_node has struct device pointer Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                                     ` <20131101094644.GG27864-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01  9:59                                                       ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                                                         ` <20131101.115919.351108054879013006.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 21:45                                                           ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                                             ` <527420EF.1070102-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-04  6:42                                                               ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-15  7:31                                   ` Grant Likely
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 02/19] [HACK] ARM: tegra: Populate AHB/IOMMU earlier than others Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1382092020-13170-3-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30 22:01       ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 03/19] [HACK] amba: Move AHB to core_initcall Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 04/19] [HACK] iommu/tegra: smmu: Move IOMMU " Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 05/19] ARM: dt: tegra114: iommu: Fix IOMMU register address Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1382092020-13170-6-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30 22:07       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <52718315.1040307-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31  8:14           ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-31 16:51       ` Mark Rutland
2013-10-31 17:05         ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]           ` <20131031.190524.343708041257755667.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 17:11             ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]               ` <20131031.191126.1326472797634956722.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 17:34                 ` Mark Rutland
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 06/19] iommu/tegra: smmu: Select ARM_DMA_USE_IOMMU in Kconfig Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1382092020-13170-7-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30 22:15       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <527184E4.1070800-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31  8:16           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]             ` <20131031.101601.1966768312584871868.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 16:55               ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 07/19] iommu/tegra: smmu: Create default IOVA maps Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1382092020-13170-8-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30 22:18       ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 08/19] iommu/tegra: smmu: Register platform_device to IOMMU dynamically Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 09/19] iommu/tegra: smmu: Calculate ASID register offset by ID Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 10/19] iommu/tegra: smmu: Get "nvidia,swgroups" from DT Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1382092020-13170-11-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24  8:58       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]         ` <20131024085811.A3F2CC4039D-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30 22:22           ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-30 22:33       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <5271893C.6000507-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31  8:17           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]             ` <20131031.101717.1419377840657413108.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 16:54               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                 ` <5273DCCD.2050901-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-04  6:59                   ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-31 17:31           ` Mark Rutland
2013-10-31 18:00             ` Will Deacon
     [not found]               ` <20131031180029.GB31082-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01  7:41                 ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-01  7:41                   ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-01  7:27             ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-31 17:15       ` Mark Rutland
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 11/19] ARM: dt: tegra30: iommu: Add "nvidia,swgroups" Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1382092020-13170-12-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30 22:35       ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 12/19] ARM: dt: tegra114: " Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1382092020-13170-13-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 16:46       ` Mark Rutland
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 13/19] iommu/tegra: smmu: Workaround PCIe IOMMU'able Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1382092020-13170-14-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30 22:36       ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 14/19] iommu/tegra: smmu: Get "nvidia,memory-clients" from DT Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1382092020-13170-15-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24  9:01       ` Grant Likely
2013-10-30 22:44       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <52718BB4.4090007-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31  8:18           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]             ` <20131031.101808.1830527808656695540.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 17:40               ` Mark Rutland
2013-10-31 18:02                 ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                   ` <20131031180212.GC31082-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 19:13                     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                       ` <5272ABBD.4050505-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 19:21                         ` Will Deacon
2013-10-31 19:16                 ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                   ` <5272AC82.6080205-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 19:25                     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                       ` <5272AEA5.7020200-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 19:39                         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                           ` <20131031193941.GB31516-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01  8:03                             ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-01 16:08                             ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                               ` <5273D214.90106-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 16:34                                 ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                                   ` <20131101163404.GC2442-MRww78TxoiP5vMa5CHWGZ34zcgK1vI+I0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 17:05                                     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                       ` <5273DF45.8050505-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-04  6:48                                         ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-01 17:08                                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-01  7:54                     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-11-01  7:46                 ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-31 19:17               ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 15/19] ARM: tegra: Create a DT header defining SWGROUP ID Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <1382092020-13170-16-git-send-email-hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30 22:48       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <52718CC6.5-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31  8:19           ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]             ` <20131031.101942.530833331841957251.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 17:46               ` Mark Rutland
2013-10-31 19:18                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-01  8:06                 ` Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]                   ` <20131101100605.2a29eac5b5ba8719a0beb276-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 16:05                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 16/19] iommu/tegra: smmu: Use dt-bindings MACRO Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 17/19] ARM: dt: tegra30: iommu: Add "nvidia,memory-clients" Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-18 10:26   ` [PATCHv3 18/19] ARM: dt: tegra114: iommu: Add "nvidia, memory-clients" Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-18 10:27   ` [PATCHv3 19/19] iommu/tegra: smmu: Support Multiple ASID Hiroshi Doyu
2013-10-30 16:34   ` [PATCHv3 00/19] Unifying SMMU driver among Tegra SoCs Hiroshi Doyu
     [not found]     ` <20131030.183454.2089418674186724494.hdoyu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30 16:44       ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-30 22:19   ` Stephen Warren

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