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From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: stan@hardwarefreak.com, James Plank <plank@cs.utk.edu>,
	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Mazzoleni <amadvance@gmail.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	David Smith <creamyfish@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Triple parity and beyond
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 18:39:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5290E83F.5080304@hesbynett.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131123095953.18858e89@notabene.brown>

On 22/11/13 23:59, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:07:09 -0600 Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com>
> wrote:
>
<snip>
>> In the event of a double drive failure in one mirror, the RAID 1 code
>> will need to be modified in such a way as to allow the RAID 5 code to
>> rebuild the first replacement disk, because the RAID 1 device is still
>> in a failed state.  Once this rebuild is complete, the RAID 1 code will
>> need to switch the state to degraded, and then do its standard rebuild
>> routine for the 2nd replacement drive.
>>
>> Or, with some (likely major) hacking it should be possible to rebuild
>> both drives simultaneously for no loss of throughput or additional
>> elapsed time on the RAID 5 rebuild.
>
> Nah, that would be minor hacking.  Just recreate the RAID1 in a state that is
> not-insync, but with automatic-resync disabled.
> Then as continuous writes arrive, move the "recovery_cp" variable forward
> towards the end of the array.  When it reaches the end we can safely mark the
> whole array as 'in-sync' and forget about diabling auto-resync.
>
> NeilBrown
>

That was my thoughts here.  I don't know what state the planned "bitmap 
of non-sync regions" feature is in, but if and when it is implemented, 
you would just create the replacement raid1 pair without any 
synchronisation.  Any writes to the pair (such as during a raid5 
rebuild) would get written to both disks at the same time.

David



  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-23 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-18 22:08 Triple parity and beyond Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-18 22:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-18 22:35   ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-18 23:25     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-19 10:16       ` David Brown
2013-11-19 17:36         ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-19 22:51           ` Drew
2013-11-20  0:54             ` Chris Murphy
2013-11-20  1:23               ` John Williams
2013-11-20 10:35                 ` David Brown
2013-11-20 10:31           ` David Brown
2013-11-20 18:09             ` John Williams
2013-11-20 18:44               ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-21  6:15                 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-21  8:32               ` David Brown
2013-11-20 18:34             ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 18:43               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-20 18:56                 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 18:59                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-20 21:21                     ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 19:00                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-20 21:04                     ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 21:06                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-21  8:36               ` David Brown
2013-11-19 17:28       ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-19 20:29         ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-20 16:16           ` James Plank
2013-11-20 19:05             ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 19:10               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-20 20:30                 ` James Plank
2013-11-20 21:23                   ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-27  2:50                     ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-11-20 21:28                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-21  1:28             ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-21  2:46               ` John Williams
2013-11-21  6:52                 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-21  7:05                   ` John Williams
2013-11-21 22:57                     ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-21 23:38                       ` John Williams
2013-11-22  9:35                         ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 11:24                           ` joystick
2013-11-22 15:01                           ` John Williams
2013-11-22 22:28                             ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 23:07                       ` NeilBrown
2013-11-23  3:46                         ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-23  5:04                           ` NeilBrown
2013-11-23  5:34                             ` John Williams
2013-11-23  7:12                               ` NeilBrown
2013-11-24  4:03                                 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-24  4:03                                   ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-24  5:14                                   ` John Williams
2013-11-24 21:13                                     ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-24 21:13                                       ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-24 23:28                                       ` Rudy Zijlstra
2013-11-24 23:28                                         ` Rudy Zijlstra
2013-11-24 23:53                                       ` Alex Elsayed
2013-11-25  2:04                                         ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-25  2:04                                           ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-25  4:48                                           ` Alex Elsayed
2013-11-25  9:15                                       ` David Brown
2013-11-25  9:15                                         ` David Brown
2013-11-24  5:19                                   ` Russell Coker
2013-11-24 21:44                                     ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-24 22:31                                       ` Mark Knecht
2013-11-25  2:14                                       ` Russell Coker
2013-11-25  9:20                                         ` David Brown
2013-11-21  8:08               ` joystick
2013-11-22  0:30                 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22  0:33                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-22  0:45                   ` David Brown
2013-11-21  9:07               ` David Brown
2013-11-21  9:54                 ` Adam Goryachev
2013-11-21 10:32                   ` David Brown
2013-11-22  8:12                   ` Russell Coker
2013-11-25 18:23                     ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2013-11-22  8:13                 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 13:15                   ` David Brown
2013-11-22 16:07                   ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 22:59                     ` NeilBrown
2013-11-23 17:39                       ` David Brown [this message]
2013-11-22 16:50                   ` Mark Knecht
2013-11-22 19:51                     ` Duncan
2013-11-22 19:51                       ` Duncan
2013-11-22  8:38                 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 13:24                   ` David Brown
2013-11-28  7:16                     ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-28  7:36                       ` Russell Coker
2013-11-28  9:56                       ` David Brown
2013-11-30  7:32                       ` Alex Elsayed
2013-12-01 15:37                         ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 14:19                   ` David Taylor
2013-11-21 19:56               ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-19 18:12 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-20 10:44   ` David Brown
2013-11-20 21:59     ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-20 21:59       ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-21 10:13       ` David Brown
2013-11-21 10:13         ` David Brown
2013-11-21 17:37         ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2013-11-21 17:37           ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2013-11-21 20:05         ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-21 20:31           ` David Brown
2013-11-21 20:52             ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-22  0:32               ` David Brown
2013-11-22 20:32                 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-26 18:10             ` joystick
2013-11-20 21:38   ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 22:29 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-23  7:55   ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-23 22:10     ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-24  9:39       ` Andrea Mazzoleni
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-12-01 17:53 Richard Scobie
2013-12-02  4:30 ` Stan Hoeppner

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