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From: Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
	linux-omap <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"rob.herring@calxeda.com" <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Subject: Re: HYP Kernel boot requirements
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:44:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5293A888.9050500@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131125172825.GD8396@arm.com>

On Monday 25 November 2013 12:28 PM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 04:59:16PM +0000, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>> On Monday 25 November 2013 11:33 AM, Christoffer Dall wrote:
>>> On 25 November 2013 08:28, Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com> wrote:
>>>> On Monday 25 November 2013 10:09 AM, Christoffer Dall wrote:
>>>>> On 23 November 2013 16:07, Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Boot-CPU entry into the HYP mode is managed in boot-loader but
>>>>>> the secondary CPUs directly jumps to kernel during boot. Same
>>>>>> path is also used for CPU hotplug as well during suspend for
>>>>>> secondary CPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hence patch the secondary CPU boot path for hyp mode etry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
>>>>>> Cc: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>  arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap-headsmp.S |    7 +++++++
>>>>>>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap-headsmp.S b/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap-headsmp.S
>>>>>> index 75e9295..4844dd8 100644
>>>>>> --- a/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap-headsmp.S
>>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap-headsmp.S
>>>>>> @@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  /* Physical address needed since MMU not enabled yet on secondary core */
>>>>>>  #define AUX_CORE_BOOT0_PA                      0x48281800
>>>>>> +#define API_HYP_ENTRY                          0x102
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  /*
>>>>>>   * OMAP5 specific entry point for secondary CPU to jump from ROM
>>>>>> @@ -38,6 +39,12 @@ wait:        ldr     r2, =AUX_CORE_BOOT0_PA  @ read from AuxCoreBoot0
>>>>>>         and     r4, r4, #0x0f
>>>>>>         cmp     r0, r4
>>>>>>         bne     wait
>>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_KVM_ARM_HOST
>>>>>> +       ldr     r12, =API_HYP_ENTRY
>>>>>> +       adr     r0, hyp_boot
>>>>>> +       smc     #0
>>>>>> +hyp_boot:
>>>>>> +#endif
>>>>>>         b       secondary_startup
>>>>>>  END(omap5_secondary_startup)
>>>>>>  /*
>>>>>
>>>>> hmm, this means that currently running this in a guest will fail to
>>>>> bring-up SMP, right?
>>>>>
>>>> Nope. Because the code under 'KVM_ARM_HOST' macro. Guest build
>>>> will not enable CONFIG_KVM_ARM_HOST and things should be fine then.
>>>> Right ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> That really goes against the whole single binary on all platforms
>>> thing. With multi-platform support you really shouldn't have to
>>> compile your kernel any differently for running as a guest as when
>>> you're running on a host.  Someone may even emulate an OMAP5 in QEMU
>>> and you'd certainly want your kvm-enabled kernel to run as both guest
>>> and host.  After all, this is not a paravirtualization solution.
>>
>> Fair enough.
>>
>>>>> Couldn't you create a little wrapper-pen in U-Boot instead, which
>>>>> replicates the omap boot protocol and takes care of the hyp-mode
>>>>> startup there instead, keeping this completely out of the kernel?
>>>>>
>>>> Its not just booting but CPU hotplug also follows the same path
>>>> so we need the mechanism in kernel to switch mode.
>>>>
>>>> In general, I think its important to consider the aspect with
>>>> CPU PM. CPUs are not going to go through the boot-loaders in
>>>> those paths and hence need of HYP entry in the kernel will
>>>> be must.
>>>>
>>> I agree, and PSCI is the obvious only correct answer to this.
>>>
>>> We have discussed this a bit earlier (I think Will Deacon brought this
>>> up - cc'ed), but I don't think anyone had any bright ideas.
>>>
>>> However, we broadly agreed on the fact that for KVM/hyp support, you
>>> need to boot your kernel in that mode, and this is definitely pulling
>>> in the wrong direction.
>>
>> What I am saying is the platforms like OMAP5 already support PM in
>> mainline kernel and we can't break that for KVM. Boot-loaders
>> would be thrashed after boot so you need something which runs
>> in Kernel or along with Kernel to have equivalent of hyp
>> switching.
>>
>> Am not challenging the agreed direction but we need to solve the
>> PM problem as well before making "all CPU runs boot-loader for
>> HYP kernels" as a must have. At least its is a change in boot
>> strategy from existing kernels.
> 
> Of course I recommend PSCI which covers both hotplug and suspend ;), but
> I guess it's not the case for OMAP5. Since OMAP has its own secondary
> booting protocol and CPU hotplug re-entry, can you not just use
> different entry point when the primary CPU was initially started in Hyp
> mode (e.g. omap5_hyp_secondary_startup)?
> 
How will that solve the guest secondary boot failure case when using
the same kernel binary for guest-boot ? Even for primary CPU which
will be suspended it needs to resume already in HYP mode and its not
going to go through boot-loader. So the low power code needs to have
HYP switch code so that CPU resumes in HYP mode.

I will look at PSCI more closely and see what can be done here.

Regards,
Santosh




WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: santosh.shilimkar@ti.com (Santosh Shilimkar)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: HYP Kernel boot requirements
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:44:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5293A888.9050500@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131125172825.GD8396@arm.com>

On Monday 25 November 2013 12:28 PM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 04:59:16PM +0000, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>> On Monday 25 November 2013 11:33 AM, Christoffer Dall wrote:
>>> On 25 November 2013 08:28, Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com> wrote:
>>>> On Monday 25 November 2013 10:09 AM, Christoffer Dall wrote:
>>>>> On 23 November 2013 16:07, Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Boot-CPU entry into the HYP mode is managed in boot-loader but
>>>>>> the secondary CPUs directly jumps to kernel during boot. Same
>>>>>> path is also used for CPU hotplug as well during suspend for
>>>>>> secondary CPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hence patch the secondary CPU boot path for hyp mode etry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
>>>>>> Cc: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>  arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap-headsmp.S |    7 +++++++
>>>>>>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap-headsmp.S b/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap-headsmp.S
>>>>>> index 75e9295..4844dd8 100644
>>>>>> --- a/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap-headsmp.S
>>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap-headsmp.S
>>>>>> @@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  /* Physical address needed since MMU not enabled yet on secondary core */
>>>>>>  #define AUX_CORE_BOOT0_PA                      0x48281800
>>>>>> +#define API_HYP_ENTRY                          0x102
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  /*
>>>>>>   * OMAP5 specific entry point for secondary CPU to jump from ROM
>>>>>> @@ -38,6 +39,12 @@ wait:        ldr     r2, =AUX_CORE_BOOT0_PA  @ read from AuxCoreBoot0
>>>>>>         and     r4, r4, #0x0f
>>>>>>         cmp     r0, r4
>>>>>>         bne     wait
>>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_KVM_ARM_HOST
>>>>>> +       ldr     r12, =API_HYP_ENTRY
>>>>>> +       adr     r0, hyp_boot
>>>>>> +       smc     #0
>>>>>> +hyp_boot:
>>>>>> +#endif
>>>>>>         b       secondary_startup
>>>>>>  END(omap5_secondary_startup)
>>>>>>  /*
>>>>>
>>>>> hmm, this means that currently running this in a guest will fail to
>>>>> bring-up SMP, right?
>>>>>
>>>> Nope. Because the code under 'KVM_ARM_HOST' macro. Guest build
>>>> will not enable CONFIG_KVM_ARM_HOST and things should be fine then.
>>>> Right ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> That really goes against the whole single binary on all platforms
>>> thing. With multi-platform support you really shouldn't have to
>>> compile your kernel any differently for running as a guest as when
>>> you're running on a host.  Someone may even emulate an OMAP5 in QEMU
>>> and you'd certainly want your kvm-enabled kernel to run as both guest
>>> and host.  After all, this is not a paravirtualization solution.
>>
>> Fair enough.
>>
>>>>> Couldn't you create a little wrapper-pen in U-Boot instead, which
>>>>> replicates the omap boot protocol and takes care of the hyp-mode
>>>>> startup there instead, keeping this completely out of the kernel?
>>>>>
>>>> Its not just booting but CPU hotplug also follows the same path
>>>> so we need the mechanism in kernel to switch mode.
>>>>
>>>> In general, I think its important to consider the aspect with
>>>> CPU PM. CPUs are not going to go through the boot-loaders in
>>>> those paths and hence need of HYP entry in the kernel will
>>>> be must.
>>>>
>>> I agree, and PSCI is the obvious only correct answer to this.
>>>
>>> We have discussed this a bit earlier (I think Will Deacon brought this
>>> up - cc'ed), but I don't think anyone had any bright ideas.
>>>
>>> However, we broadly agreed on the fact that for KVM/hyp support, you
>>> need to boot your kernel in that mode, and this is definitely pulling
>>> in the wrong direction.
>>
>> What I am saying is the platforms like OMAP5 already support PM in
>> mainline kernel and we can't break that for KVM. Boot-loaders
>> would be thrashed after boot so you need something which runs
>> in Kernel or along with Kernel to have equivalent of hyp
>> switching.
>>
>> Am not challenging the agreed direction but we need to solve the
>> PM problem as well before making "all CPU runs boot-loader for
>> HYP kernels" as a must have. At least its is a change in boot
>> strategy from existing kernels.
> 
> Of course I recommend PSCI which covers both hotplug and suspend ;), but
> I guess it's not the case for OMAP5. Since OMAP has its own secondary
> booting protocol and CPU hotplug re-entry, can you not just use
> different entry point when the primary CPU was initially started in Hyp
> mode (e.g. omap5_hyp_secondary_startup)?
> 
How will that solve the guest secondary boot failure case when using
the same kernel binary for guest-boot ? Even for primary CPU which
will be suspended it needs to resume already in HYP mode and its not
going to go through boot-loader. So the low power code needs to have
HYP switch code so that CPU resumes in HYP mode.

I will look at PSCI more closely and see what can be done here.

Regards,
Santosh

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-25 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-24  0:07 [PATCH 0/2] ARM: OMAP5: Couple of patches for KVM Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-24  0:07 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-24  0:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] ARM: dts: OMAP5: Add maintenance interrupt for virtualisation Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-24  0:07   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-24  0:38   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-24  0:38     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-24  0:07 ` [PATCH 2/2] ARM: OMAP5: Add HYP mode entry support for secondary CPUs Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-24  0:07   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-25 15:09   ` Christoffer Dall
2013-11-25 15:09     ` Christoffer Dall
2013-11-25 16:28     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-25 16:28       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-25 16:33       ` Christoffer Dall
2013-11-25 16:33         ` Christoffer Dall
2013-11-25 16:59         ` HYP Kernel boot requirements [Was ...Re: [PATCH 2/2] ARM: OMAP5: Add HYP mode entry support for secondary CPUs] Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-25 16:59           ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-25 17:28           ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-25 17:28             ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-25 19:44             ` Santosh Shilimkar [this message]
2013-11-25 19:44               ` HYP Kernel boot requirements Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-26 14:13               ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-26 14:13                 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-26 14:47                 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-26 14:47                   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-26 17:37                   ` Dave Martin
2013-11-26 17:37                     ` Dave Martin
2013-11-26 21:49                     ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-26 21:49                       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-27 14:38                       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2013-11-27 14:38                         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2013-11-25 16:42       ` [PATCH 2/2] ARM: OMAP5: Add HYP mode entry support for secondary CPUs Marc Zyngier
2013-11-25 16:42         ` Marc Zyngier
2013-11-25 17:02         ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-11-25 17:02           ` Santosh Shilimkar

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