From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@cloudius-systems.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi.kivity@gmail.com>,
"Huangweidong (C)" <weidong.huang@huawei.com>,
KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Jinxin (F)" <jinxin712@huawei.com>,
"Zhanghaoyu (A)" <haoyu.zhang@huawei.com>,
Luonengjun <luonengjun@huawei.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Zanghongyong <zanghongyong@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] create a single workqueue for each vm to update vm irq routing table
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:20:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5294BC3B.6070902@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131126150357.GA20352@redhat.com>
Il 26/11/2013 16:03, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
>>>> > >>I understood the proposal was also to eliminate the synchronize_rcu(),
>>>> > >>so while new interrupts would see the new routing table, interrupts
>>>> > >>already in flight could pick up the old one.
>>> > >Isn't that always the case with RCU? (See my answer above: "the vcpus
>>> > >already see the new routing table after the rcu_assign_pointer that is
>>> > >in kvm_irq_routing_update").
>> >
>> > With synchronize_rcu(), you have the additional guarantee that any
>> > parallel accesses to the old routing table have completed. Since we
>> > also trigger the irq from rcu context, you know that after
>> > synchronize_rcu() you won't get any interrupts to the old
>> > destination (see kvm_set_irq_inatomic()).
> We do not have this guaranty for other vcpus that do not call
> synchronize_rcu(). They may still use outdated routing table while a vcpu
> or iothread that performed table update sits in synchronize_rcu().
Avi's point is that, after the VCPU resumes execution, you know that no
interrupt will be sent to the old destination because
kvm_set_msi_inatomic (and ultimately kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic_fast) is
also called within the RCU read-side critical section.
Without synchronize_rcu you could have
VCPU writes to routing table
e = entry from IRQ routing table
kvm_irq_routing_update(kvm, new);
VCPU resumes execution
kvm_set_msi_irq(e, &irq);
kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic_fast();
where the entry is stale but the VCPU has already resumed execution.
If we want to ensure, we need to use a different mechanism for
synchronization than the global RCU. QRCU would work; readers are not
wait-free but only if there is a concurrent synchronize_qrcu, which
should be rare.
Paolo
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@cloudius-systems.com>,
"Huangweidong (C)" <weidong.huang@huawei.com>,
KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Zhanghaoyu (A)" <haoyu.zhang@huawei.com>,
Luonengjun <luonengjun@huawei.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Zanghongyong <zanghongyong@huawei.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi.kivity@gmail.com>,
"Jinxin (F)" <jinxin712@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] create a single workqueue for each vm to update vm irq routing table
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:20:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5294BC3B.6070902@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131126150357.GA20352@redhat.com>
Il 26/11/2013 16:03, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
>>>> > >>I understood the proposal was also to eliminate the synchronize_rcu(),
>>>> > >>so while new interrupts would see the new routing table, interrupts
>>>> > >>already in flight could pick up the old one.
>>> > >Isn't that always the case with RCU? (See my answer above: "the vcpus
>>> > >already see the new routing table after the rcu_assign_pointer that is
>>> > >in kvm_irq_routing_update").
>> >
>> > With synchronize_rcu(), you have the additional guarantee that any
>> > parallel accesses to the old routing table have completed. Since we
>> > also trigger the irq from rcu context, you know that after
>> > synchronize_rcu() you won't get any interrupts to the old
>> > destination (see kvm_set_irq_inatomic()).
> We do not have this guaranty for other vcpus that do not call
> synchronize_rcu(). They may still use outdated routing table while a vcpu
> or iothread that performed table update sits in synchronize_rcu().
Avi's point is that, after the VCPU resumes execution, you know that no
interrupt will be sent to the old destination because
kvm_set_msi_inatomic (and ultimately kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic_fast) is
also called within the RCU read-side critical section.
Without synchronize_rcu you could have
VCPU writes to routing table
e = entry from IRQ routing table
kvm_irq_routing_update(kvm, new);
VCPU resumes execution
kvm_set_msi_irq(e, &irq);
kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic_fast();
where the entry is stale but the VCPU has already resumed execution.
If we want to ensure, we need to use a different mechanism for
synchronization than the global RCU. QRCU would work; readers are not
wait-free but only if there is a concurrent synchronize_qrcu, which
should be rare.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-26 15:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-26 12:40 [RFC] create a single workqueue for each vm to update vm irq routing table Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 12:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 12:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 12:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 12:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 13:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 13:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 3:46 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28 3:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 16:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:14 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-30 2:46 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-30 2:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 13:18 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 13:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 13:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 13:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 14:36 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 14:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:54 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 14:54 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 15:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 15:20 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-11-26 15:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 15:25 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:25 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 15:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 15:35 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:35 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 15:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:21 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:21 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:27 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:27 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:29 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:29 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 6:27 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28 6:27 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28 8:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 8:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 9:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 9:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 9:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 9:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 9:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 9:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 9:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 9:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 10:16 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:16 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 10:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 10:47 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:47 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 11:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 11:16 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:16 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 11:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 11:33 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:33 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 10:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 10:12 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:12 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:02 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:02 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:18 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:18 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:30 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-28 11:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-28 11:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 15:24 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:24 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 9:14 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28 9:14 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28 9:20 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 9:20 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:50 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=5294BC3B.6070902@redhat.com \
--to=pbonzini@redhat.com \
--cc=avi.kivity@gmail.com \
--cc=avi@cloudius-systems.com \
--cc=gleb@redhat.com \
--cc=haoyu.zhang@huawei.com \
--cc=jinxin712@huawei.com \
--cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=luonengjun@huawei.com \
--cc=mst@redhat.com \
--cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
--cc=weidong.huang@huawei.com \
--cc=zanghongyong@huawei.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.