From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: James Bottomley
<James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>,
Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alan Stern
<stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>,
Sarah Sharp
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Greg Kroah-Hartman
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Subject: Re: [usb-storage] UAS hangs khubd on USB disconnect
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:22:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52AB6C7B.90501@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1386964999.2055.59.camel-sFMDBYUN5F8GjUHQrlYNx2Wm91YjaHnnhRte9Li2A+AAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Hi James,
On 12/13/2013 09:03 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 11:18 -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
>> On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 13:33 -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
>>> Hello, guys.
>>>
>>> (cc'ing Greg)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 01:19:36PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Sarah Sharp wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Given the way things work now, I suspect these warnings are truly
>>>>>> harmless. We could simply get rid of the WARN in sysfs_remove_group
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The alternative is to call device_del for SCSI targets earlier on, such
>>>>>> as when their hosts are unregistered. I don't know how James would
>>>>>> feel about this approach. It would be difficult because targets use
>>>>>> their own reference counts instead of relying on the usual device
>>>>>> refcounting mechanism.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for looking into this. I think just getting rid of the WARN
>>>>> would be sufficient. Can you make a patch for that?
>>>>
>>>> Easily. The downside is that there would no longer be any warning
>>>> when someone tries to remove a wrong subdirectory by mistake.
>>>>
>>>>> The patch still won't help with the UAS issues with
>>>>> scsi_init_shared_tag_map though.
>>>>
>>>> I wasn't clear on the reason for that problem. Does it also arise from
>>>> late device_del for scsi_target? I could try to change the way that
>>>> works, if anybody (Hans?) would like to test it.
>>>
>>> While the recent sysfs changes made this issue more visible, Greg
>>> wants to make sure that devices are removed from leaf up in all cases
>>> and keep the warning to ensure that. Would there be a way fix SCSI
>>> removal ordering?
>>
>> Could someone analyse the actual problem? We're quite careful even on
>> host remove to iterate and remove all the devices, then targets, then
>> host (and allied transport objects). Which removal is inverted?
>
> Actually, I think I have this figured out. There's a thinko in one of
> the scsi_target_reap() cases. The original (and still existing) problem
> with targets is that nothing creates them and nothing destroys them, so,
> while we could rely on the refcounting of the device model to preserve
> the actual target object, we had no idea when to remove it from
> visibility. That was the job of the reap reference, to track
> visibility. It looks like the reap on device last put is occurring too
> late. I think we should reap immediately after doing the sdev
> device_del, so does this fix the warn on? (I'm not sure because no-one
> has actually posted a backtrace, but it sounds like this is the
> problem).
Thanks I'll give this patch a try. As for backtraces I've posted some
(partial) backtraces as well as reproduction instructions here:
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-scsi/msg70002.html
Regards,
Hans
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-13 20:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20131212000715.GA3181@xanatos>
2013-12-12 13:13 ` UAS hangs khubd on USB disconnect Hans de Goede
2013-12-12 22:04 ` [usb-storage] " Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1312121632470.849-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-13 18:09 ` Sarah Sharp
2013-12-13 18:19 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1312131316470.1185-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-13 18:33 ` Tejun Heo
2013-12-13 19:18 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1386962327.2055.54.camel-sFMDBYUN5F8GjUHQrlYNx2Wm91YjaHnnhRte9Li2A+AAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-13 20:03 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1386964999.2055.59.camel-sFMDBYUN5F8GjUHQrlYNx2Wm91YjaHnnhRte9Li2A+AAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-13 20:22 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2013-12-13 21:06 ` Alan Stern
2013-12-13 21:18 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1386969529.2055.79.camel-sFMDBYUN5F8GjUHQrlYNx2Wm91YjaHnnhRte9Li2A+AAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-14 0:48 ` Alan Stern
2013-12-14 1:27 ` James Bottomley
2013-12-14 3:00 ` Alan Stern
2013-12-14 3:03 ` [RFC] fix our current target reap infrastructure James Bottomley
2013-12-14 3:32 ` Alan Stern
2013-12-14 23:55 ` James Bottomley
2013-12-15 21:32 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1312151550380.32133-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-15 22:14 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1387145674.2284.60.camel-sFMDBYUN5F8GjUHQrlYNx2Wm91YjaHnnhRte9Li2A+AAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-16 2:44 ` Alan Stern
2013-12-16 3:32 ` James Bottomley
2013-12-16 2:49 ` Alan Stern
2013-12-16 3:33 ` James Bottomley
2013-12-13 21:13 ` [usb-storage] UAS hangs khubd on USB disconnect Sarah Sharp
2013-12-13 21:24 ` Hans de Goede
2013-12-13 20:05 ` Alan Stern
2013-12-13 19:07 ` Sarah Sharp
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