From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from starfish.geekisp.com (starfish.geekisp.com [216.168.135.166]) by mail.openembedded.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB7146B57C for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 22:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25320 invoked by uid 1003); 28 Dec 2013 22:44:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.113?) (philip@opensdr.com@71.171.43.170) by mail.geekisp.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 28 Dec 2013 22:44:01 -0000 Message-ID: <52BF51CC.4040300@balister.org> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 17:33:48 -0500 From: Philip Balister User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Koen Kooi References: <1801103.RjHpRo2rCi@helios> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Cc: poky@yoctoproject.org, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org, openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org Subject: Re: Piglit in Poky X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 22:44:02 -0000 X-Groupsio-MsgNum: 48486 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rNCqGmQPj7NEg1FHJoTcgB3uBbfHEIMwg" --rNCqGmQPj7NEg1FHJoTcgB3uBbfHEIMwg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/28/2013 10:28 AM, Koen Kooi wrote: > Paul Eggleton schreef op 28-12-13 12:48: >> Hi Koen, >=20 >> On Tuesday 24 December 2013 15:22:32 Koen Kooi wrote: >>> Burton, Ross schreef op 23-12-13 19:01: >>>> We'd like to integrate Piglit (an OpenGL test suite) into Poky so >>>> that we can run automated QA on the GL stack. Piglit is currently >>>> residing in meta-oe, but as Poky is a self-contained project we can'= t >>>> just add meta-oe to it: apart from the size of meta-oe, we can't >>>> ensure stability if meta-oe makes incompatible changes that affect >>>> Poky. >>>> >>>> Piglit isn't a stand-alone package, there are the dependencies of >>>> waffle, python-mako and python-numpy to consider too. There are two= =20 >>>> possibilities I can see: >>>> >>>> 1) Move piglit and deps to oe-core. Piglit is for QA purposes only >>>> and pushes the boundaries of "core platform". In a sense this is a >>>> repeat of the discussion we had with Midori... does oe-core contain= >>>> everything needed to sufficiently exercise the core components it >>>> ships or not? >>>> >>>> 2) Add piglit and deps to meta-yocto. Probably a new layer called=20 >>>> meta-yocto-qa (or similar) because the Yocto Compatible guidelines >>>> forbid mixing distribution policy and recipes. >>> >>> Speaking of layers, can you *please* rename meta-yocto to meta-poky? >>> It's what it's actually is and would remove a lot of confusion when >>> trying to explain that yocto is not a distro, even if the distro laye= r >>> is called 'meta-yocto'. >=20 >> This is a tangent, but a couple of points: >=20 >> 1) This rename would not come for free. We'd need to update people's >> existing bblayers.conf files on the fly, as we did when meta-yocto-bsp= >> was split out of meta-yocto, and thus bump LCONF_VERSION; however, doi= ng >> this only in poky has resulted in annoying problems when users remove >> poky from their configurations (since LCONF_VERSION is out-of-step >> between Poky and OE-Core, leading to confusing errors in this situatio= n). >> Thus I think we'd want to solve this once and for all by bumping the >> value in OE-Core as well as Poky. >=20 >> 2) If you propose this rename, perhaps you will also consider renaming= =20 >> meta-oe, since that name within a similarly named meta-openembedded >> repository leads to a similar level of confusion...? >=20 > I have no problems with renaming that layer since I get confused by thi= s a > few times a week myself :) What would we we rename it to? Philip >=20 > regards, >=20 > Koen >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Openembedded-core mailing list > Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org > http://lists.openembedded.org/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core >=20 >=20 --rNCqGmQPj7NEg1FHJoTcgB3uBbfHEIMwg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSv1QwAAoJEMDJd4rr0merzCkH/A3btEGOPwAJF73Yr9lsSR5j H5v8CIrR4mxYpH/j3aR6pKO6v69G9YaUeUGZQY4lI75OwRGMpRRuUPQ7Eppm6lCS wYwpPU0PIHfVF9OJqnFuZemEINzazjZtzcaV16qbKVLRGhT8XuGVeRLsKa/vFq5G VIS/k/UiLH01HJZVwYRN9duxuDMViK6YhuZBMUINZJ+IGElHL0O7NB6Ke1mDrMsX XElBRSOwn9ZT7VDqJ3hoSNmtjMVToRz01eP54sb2+JYaiRJIhLZSsj+z+/JGEaeM +IvOxOkWESHg/lN0QQ5YdmGRDWCbzyukfUrGrPVyU7zdH5wW5ELwDYOfjhMC3xE= =b4ch -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rNCqGmQPj7NEg1FHJoTcgB3uBbfHEIMwg-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from starfish.geekisp.com (starfish.geekisp.com [216.168.135.166]) by mail.openembedded.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC5816B5AC for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 22:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25320 invoked by uid 1003); 28 Dec 2013 22:44:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.113?) (philip@opensdr.com@71.171.43.170) by mail.geekisp.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 28 Dec 2013 22:44:01 -0000 Message-ID: <52BF51CC.4040300@balister.org> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 17:33:48 -0500 From: Philip Balister User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Koen Kooi References: <1801103.RjHpRo2rCi@helios> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Cc: poky@yoctoproject.org, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org, openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org Subject: Re: [OE-core] Piglit in Poky X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 22:44:02 -0000 X-Groupsio-MsgNum: 47524 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rNCqGmQPj7NEg1FHJoTcgB3uBbfHEIMwg" --rNCqGmQPj7NEg1FHJoTcgB3uBbfHEIMwg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/28/2013 10:28 AM, Koen Kooi wrote: > Paul Eggleton schreef op 28-12-13 12:48: >> Hi Koen, >=20 >> On Tuesday 24 December 2013 15:22:32 Koen Kooi wrote: >>> Burton, Ross schreef op 23-12-13 19:01: >>>> We'd like to integrate Piglit (an OpenGL test suite) into Poky so >>>> that we can run automated QA on the GL stack. Piglit is currently >>>> residing in meta-oe, but as Poky is a self-contained project we can'= t >>>> just add meta-oe to it: apart from the size of meta-oe, we can't >>>> ensure stability if meta-oe makes incompatible changes that affect >>>> Poky. >>>> >>>> Piglit isn't a stand-alone package, there are the dependencies of >>>> waffle, python-mako and python-numpy to consider too. There are two= =20 >>>> possibilities I can see: >>>> >>>> 1) Move piglit and deps to oe-core. Piglit is for QA purposes only >>>> and pushes the boundaries of "core platform". In a sense this is a >>>> repeat of the discussion we had with Midori... does oe-core contain= >>>> everything needed to sufficiently exercise the core components it >>>> ships or not? >>>> >>>> 2) Add piglit and deps to meta-yocto. Probably a new layer called=20 >>>> meta-yocto-qa (or similar) because the Yocto Compatible guidelines >>>> forbid mixing distribution policy and recipes. >>> >>> Speaking of layers, can you *please* rename meta-yocto to meta-poky? >>> It's what it's actually is and would remove a lot of confusion when >>> trying to explain that yocto is not a distro, even if the distro laye= r >>> is called 'meta-yocto'. >=20 >> This is a tangent, but a couple of points: >=20 >> 1) This rename would not come for free. We'd need to update people's >> existing bblayers.conf files on the fly, as we did when meta-yocto-bsp= >> was split out of meta-yocto, and thus bump LCONF_VERSION; however, doi= ng >> this only in poky has resulted in annoying problems when users remove >> poky from their configurations (since LCONF_VERSION is out-of-step >> between Poky and OE-Core, leading to confusing errors in this situatio= n). >> Thus I think we'd want to solve this once and for all by bumping the >> value in OE-Core as well as Poky. >=20 >> 2) If you propose this rename, perhaps you will also consider renaming= =20 >> meta-oe, since that name within a similarly named meta-openembedded >> repository leads to a similar level of confusion...? >=20 > I have no problems with renaming that layer since I get confused by thi= s a > few times a week myself :) What would we we rename it to? Philip >=20 > regards, >=20 > Koen >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Openembedded-core mailing list > Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org > http://lists.openembedded.org/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core >=20 >=20 --rNCqGmQPj7NEg1FHJoTcgB3uBbfHEIMwg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSv1QwAAoJEMDJd4rr0merzCkH/A3btEGOPwAJF73Yr9lsSR5j H5v8CIrR4mxYpH/j3aR6pKO6v69G9YaUeUGZQY4lI75OwRGMpRRuUPQ7Eppm6lCS wYwpPU0PIHfVF9OJqnFuZemEINzazjZtzcaV16qbKVLRGhT8XuGVeRLsKa/vFq5G VIS/k/UiLH01HJZVwYRN9duxuDMViK6YhuZBMUINZJ+IGElHL0O7NB6Ke1mDrMsX XElBRSOwn9ZT7VDqJ3hoSNmtjMVToRz01eP54sb2+JYaiRJIhLZSsj+z+/JGEaeM +IvOxOkWESHg/lN0QQ5YdmGRDWCbzyukfUrGrPVyU7zdH5wW5ELwDYOfjhMC3xE= =b4ch -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rNCqGmQPj7NEg1FHJoTcgB3uBbfHEIMwg--