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From: Joe Landman <joe.landman@gmail.com>
To: stan@hardwarefreak.com, Phillip Susi <psusi@ubuntu.com>,
	joystick <joystick@shiftmail.org>
Cc: linux-raid <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: The chunk size paradox
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2014 14:21:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52C5BC28.2020003@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52C5A9AA.9090300@hardwarefreak.com>

On 01/02/2014 01:02 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 1/2/2014 10:31 AM, Phillip Susi wrote:
>> On 1/2/2014 10:41 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>>> First, there is no such thing as a 4K sector in Linux.  Sectors are
>>> 512 bytes.  Filesystem blocks and memory pages are 4K.
>>
>> Of course there is.  Disks with 4k sectors are becoming more and more
>> popular.
>
> Please read:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Format
>
> There are no native 4K sector drives on the market.  Linux does not

Untrue.

http://storage.toshiba.eu/cms/en/hdd/hard_disk_drives/product_detail.jsp?productid=452

http://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/constellation-fam/constellation-cs/en-us/docs/terascale-hdd-data-sheet-ds1793-1-1306us.pdf

and many others.

512 byte sector native drives are now far less common, with many of the 
drives being native 4096 bytes with a translation layer for legacy 
systems that require 512 bytes.  This is infamous for wreaking havoc 
with alignment.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-02 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-30 18:48 The chunk size paradox Phillip Susi
2013-12-30 23:38 ` Peter Grandi
2013-12-31  0:01   ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-12-31 13:51     ` David Brown
2014-01-02 20:08   ` Phillip Susi
2014-01-02 14:49 ` joystick
2014-01-02 15:24   ` Phillip Susi
2014-01-02 15:41   ` Stan Hoeppner
2014-01-02 16:31     ` Phillip Susi
2014-01-02 18:02       ` Stan Hoeppner
2014-01-02 19:10         ` Phillip Susi
2014-01-02 22:49           ` Peter Grandi
2014-01-02 23:16           ` Stan Hoeppner
2014-01-03  1:02             ` Phillip Susi
2014-01-02 19:21         ` Joe Landman [this message]
2014-01-02 22:42           ` Stan Hoeppner
2014-01-02 22:56             ` Carsten Aulbert
2014-01-03  0:19               ` Phillip Susi
2014-01-03  1:24               ` Stan Hoeppner
2014-01-03  3:14               ` Joe Landman
2014-01-03  3:19                 ` Stan Hoeppner
2014-01-03  4:24                   ` Stan Hoeppner
2014-01-02 23:22           ` Peter Grandi
2014-01-03  3:09             ` Joe Landman
2014-01-03  4:58             ` Joe Landman
2014-01-02 22:32         ` Wolfgang Denk
2014-01-03 14:51           ` Benjamin ESTRABAUD

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