From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>, Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>
Cc: Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: high write latency bug in ext3 / jbd in 3.4
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:39:04 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52D45CF8.3030403@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140113211610.GE1214@kvack.org>
On 1/13/14, 3:16 PM, Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 02:01:08PM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>> Not to be flippant, but is there any reason NOT to just mount the
>> filesystem with ext4? There are a large number of improvements in
>> the ext4 code that don't require on-disk format changes (e.g. delayed
>> allocation, multi-block allocation, etc) if there is a concern about
>> being able to downgrade to an ext3-type mount in case of problems.
>
> I'm leaning towards doing this. The main reason for not doing so was
> primarily that a few of the tweaks that I had been made to ext3 would
> have to be ported to ext4. Thankfully, I think we're still in an early
> enough stage of release that I should be able to do so. The changes
> are pretty specific, mostly allocator tweaks to improve the on-disk
> layout for our specific use-case.
>
>> There are further improvements in ext4 that can be used on upgraded
>> ext3 filesystems if the feature bit is enabled (in particular extent
>> mapped files). However, extent mapped files are not accessible under
>> ext3, so it makes sense to run with ext4 w/o any new features for a
>> while until you are sure it is working for you.
>
> I had hoped to use ext4, but the recommended fsck after changing the
> various feature bits is a non-starter during our upgrade process (a 22
> minute outage isn't acceptable).
I would never recommend the ext3-ext4 "tune2fs migration" - you'll end
up with a really weird hybrid filesystems containing files with different
capabilities, and missing many of the metadata layout improvements.
-Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-13 21:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-13 20:13 high write latency bug in ext3 / jbd in 3.4 Benjamin LaHaise
2014-01-13 21:01 ` Andreas Dilger
2014-01-13 21:16 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-01-13 21:39 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2014-01-13 22:52 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-01-14 0:55 ` Andreas Dilger
2014-01-14 1:01 ` Eric Sandeen
2014-01-14 1:21 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2014-01-14 3:52 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-01-27 23:55 ` Jan Kara
2014-01-28 16:06 ` Benjamin LaHaise
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