From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.saout.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.saout.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qQ8MszbIFnT9 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 20:36:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-ea0-x230.google.com (mail-ea0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.saout.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 20:36:57 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-ea0-f176.google.com with SMTP id h14so695528eaj.7 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:36:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52D6E355.7080008@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 20:36:53 +0100 From: Milan Broz MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <638F1A81-8F17-4E18-8993-7F848EA84F08@offensive-security.com> <20140114043601.GB15870@tansi.org> <20140114071159.GD18564@tansi.org> <20140114143403.GA22711@tansi.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] nuke password to delete luks header List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: ".. ink .." , "dm-crypt@saout.de" On 01/14/2014 08:22 PM, .. ink .. wrote: > > > While I have not looked at it for some time, the last time I looked, > FAT did a create-at-end Strategy. This way the data "wanders" over > the partition towrds the end. ext2/3/4 will create files all over > the disk in the first place. > > > My own tests have shown that with fat fs,files are not added randomly > all over the disk and are added sequentially.Meaning,if the volume is > used normally without exceeding a certain amount of disk space,the > rest of the disk will remain untouched. The whole hidden disk idea in TrueCrypt is based on this assumption, and it works. >From "Filesystem Forensic Analysis" by Brian Carrier (ISBN 978-0-321-26817-4), page 224, FAT allocation algorithms: "The OS gets to choose which allocation algorithm it uses when it allocates the clusters. I tested Windows98 and XP, and it appeared that a next available algorithm was being used in both. The next available algorithm searches for the first available cluster starting from the previously allocated cluster." I think this will be very similar for other FAT implementations. Milan