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From: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@canonical.com>
To: Thomas Hellstrom <thomas@shipmail.org>
Cc: Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@vmware.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] drm/nouveau: add reservation to nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:19:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52DF7F23.5020008@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52DEB1FA.2070301@shipmail.org>

op 21-01-14 18:44, Thomas Hellstrom schreef:
> On 01/21/2014 04:29 PM, Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> op 21-01-14 16:17, Thomas Hellstrom schreef:
>>> Maarten, for this and the other patches in this series,
>>>
>>> I seem to recall we have this discussion before?
>>> IIRC I stated that reservation was a too heavy-weight lock to hold to
>>> determine whether a buffer was idle? It's a pretty nasty thing to
>>> build in.
>>>
>> I've sent this patch after determining that this already didn't end up
>> being heavyweight.
>> Most places were already using the fence_lock and reservation, I just
>> fixed up the few
>> places that didn't hold a reservation while waiting. Converting the
>> few places that didn't
>> ended up being trivial, so I thought I'd submit it.
> Actually the only *valid* reason for holding a reservation when waiting
> for idle is
> 1) You want to block further command submission on the buffer.
> 2) You want to switch GPU engine and don't have access to gpu semaphores
> / barriers.
>
> Reservation has the nasty side effect that it blocks command submission
> and pins the buffer (in addition now makes the evict list traversals
> skip the buffer) which in general is *not* necessary for most wait
> cases, so we should instead actually convert the wait cases that don't
> fulfill 1) and 2) above in the other direction if we have performance
> and latency-reduction in mind. I can't see how a spinlock protecting a
> fence pointer or fence list is stopping you from using RW fences as long
> as the spinlock is held while manipulating the fence list?
>
You wish. Fine I'll enumerate all cases of ttm_bo_wait (with the patchset, though) and enumerate if they can be changed to work without reservation or not.

ttm/ttm_bo.c
ttm_bo_cleanup_refs_or_queue: needs reservation and ttm_bo_wait to finish for the direct destroy fastpath, if either fails it needs to be queued. Cannot work without reservation.
ttm_bo_cleanup_refs_and_unlock: already drops reservation to wait, doesn't need to re-acquire. Simply reordering ttm_bo_wait until after re-reserve is enough.
ttm_bo_evict: already has the reservation, cannot be dropped since only trylock is allowed. Dropping reservation would cause badness, cannot be converted.
ttm_bo_move_buffer: called from ttm_bo_validate, cannot drop reservation for same reason as ttm_bo_evict. It might be part of a ticketed reservation so really don't drop lock here.
ttm_bo_synccpu_write_grab: the wait could be converted to be done afterwards, without  fence_lock. But in this case reservation could take the role of fence_lock too,
so no separate fence_lock would be needed.
ttm_bo_swapout: see ttm_bo_evict.

ttm/ttm_bo_util.c:
ttm_bo_move_accel_cleanup: calls ttm_bo_wait, cannot drop lock, see ttm_bo_move_buffer, can be called from that function.

ttm/ttm_bo_vm.c
ttm_bo_vm_fault_idle: I guess you COULD drop the reservation here, but you already had the reservation, so a similar optimization to ttm_bo_synccpu_write_grab could be done without requiring fence_lock.
If you would write it like that, you would end up with a patch similar to drm/nouveau: add reservation to nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep. I think we should do this, an

Ok, so the core does NOT need fence_lock because we can never drop reservations except in synccpu_write_grab and maybe ttm_bo_vm_fault_idle, but even in those cases reservation is done. So that could be used instead of fence_lock.

nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep:
Either block on a global spinlock or a local reservation lock. Doesn't matter much which, I don't need the need to keep a global lock for this function...
2 cases can happen in the trylock reservation failure case: buffer is not reserved, so it's not in the process of being evicted. buffer is reserved, which means it's being used in command submission right now, or in one of the functions described above (eg not idle).

nouveau_gem_pushbuf_reloc_apply:
has to call ttm_bo_wait with reservation, cannot be dropped.

So for core ttm and nouveau the fence_lock is never needed, radeon has only 1 function that calls ttm_bo_wait which uses a reservation too. It doesn't need the fence_lock either.

~Maarten

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-22  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-21 13:04 [PATCH 1/5] drm/ttm: kill off some members to ttm_validate_buffer Maarten Lankhorst
2014-01-21 13:04 ` [PATCH 2/5] drm/nouveau: add reservation to nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep Maarten Lankhorst
2014-01-21 15:17   ` Thomas Hellstrom
2014-01-21 15:29     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-01-21 17:44       ` Thomas Hellstrom
2014-01-22  8:19         ` Maarten Lankhorst [this message]
2014-01-22  9:40           ` Thomas Hellstrom
2014-01-22  9:55             ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-01-22 10:27               ` Thomas Hellstrom
2014-01-22 10:58                 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-01-22 12:11                   ` Thomas Hellstrom
2014-01-22 12:38                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-01-22 12:52                       ` Thomas Hellstrom
2014-01-22 15:09                         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-01-22 15:30                           ` Thomas Hellstrom
2014-01-22 15:41                           ` Thomas Hellstrom
2014-01-22 12:43                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-01-21 13:04 ` [PATCH 3/5] drm/nouveau: require reservations for nouveau_fence_sync and nouveau_bo_fence Maarten Lankhorst
2014-01-21 13:04 ` [PATCH 4/5] drm/ttm: call ttm_bo_wait while inside a reservation Maarten Lankhorst
2014-01-21 13:04 ` [PATCH 5/5] drm/ttm: kill fence_lock Maarten Lankhorst
2014-01-21 14:40   ` [PATCH v2] " Maarten Lankhorst

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