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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>, John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Takahiro Akashi <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] shmgetfd idea
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:02:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52E83719.9060709@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPXgP13G14B3YFpaE+m_AtFfFR6NRVSi1JYAvLZSsfftSkgwBQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/28/2014 02:14 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>>
>> But yes, alternatively classic systems may be able to get around the
>> issues via tmpfs quotas and convincing applications to use O_TMPFILE
>> there. But to me this seems less ideal then the Android approach, where
>> the lifecycle of the tmpfs fds more limited and clear.
> 
> Tmpfs supports no quota, it's all a huge hole and unsafe in that
> regard on every system today. But ashmem and kdbus, as they are today,
> are not better.
> 

We can fix that aspect in tmpfs.  Creating new file objcts outside of
filesystems really doesn't make things any better, since our toolbox
around this stuff largely revolves around filesystems.

	-hpa

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-28 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-28  1:37 [RFC] shmgetfd idea John Stultz
2014-01-28  1:53 ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-28 19:47   ` John Stultz
2014-01-28  3:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-28 19:56   ` John Stultz
2014-01-28 20:37     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-28 20:58       ` John Stultz
2014-01-28 21:01         ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-28 21:05           ` John Stultz
2014-01-28 21:10             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-28 21:54               ` John Stultz
2014-01-28 22:14                 ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-28 23:02                   ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-01-28 23:14                     ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-28 23:19                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-29  0:14                         ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-29  0:20                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-01-29  0:49                             ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-28 23:14                   ` John Stultz
2014-01-28 21:28             ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-30  8:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-01-30 16:02   ` Kay Sievers
2014-01-30 21:42     ` John Stultz
2014-01-31  0:01       ` Kay Sievers
2014-02-03 15:03     ` Christoph Hellwig

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