From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Daniel Lezcano Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] idle: move the cpuidle entry point to the generic idle loop Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:44:00 +0100 Message-ID: <52EA5720.8010000@linaro.org> References: <1391017513-12995-1-git-send-email-nicolas.pitre@linaro.org> <1391017513-12995-2-git-send-email-nicolas.pitre@linaro.org> <52E9C946.50704@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Return-path: In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-sh-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Nicolas Pitre , Preeti U Murthy Cc: Olof Johansson , Russell King , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Paul Mundt , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Peter Zijlstra , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org List-Id: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org On 01/30/2014 06:28 AM, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Preeti U Murthy wrote: > >> Hi Nicolas, >> >> On 01/30/2014 02:01 AM, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >>> >>>> In order to integrate cpuidle with the scheduler, we must have a b= etter >>>> proximity in the core code with what cpuidle is doing and not dele= gate >>>> such interaction to arch code. >>>> >>>> Architectures implementing arch_cpu_idle() should simply enter >>>> a cheap idle mode in the absence of a proper cpuidle driver. >>>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Nicolas Pitre >>>> Acked-by: Daniel Lezcano >>> >>> As mentioned in my reply to Olof's comment on patch #5/6, here's a = new >>> version of this patch adding the safety local_irq_enable() to the c= ore >>> code. >>> >>> ----- >8 >>> >>> From: Nicolas Pitre >>> Subject: idle: move the cpuidle entry point to the generic idle loo= p >>> >>> In order to integrate cpuidle with the scheduler, we must have a be= tter >>> proximity in the core code with what cpuidle is doing and not deleg= ate >>> such interaction to arch code. >>> >>> Architectures implementing arch_cpu_idle() should simply enter >>> a cheap idle mode in the absence of a proper cpuidle driver. >>> >>> In both cases i.e. whether it is a cpuidle driver or the default >>> arch_cpu_idle(), the calling convention expects IRQs to be disabled >>> on entry and enabled on exit. There is a warning in place already b= ut >>> let's add a forced IRQ enable here as well. This will allow for >>> removing the forced IRQ enable some implementations do locally and >> >> Why would this patch allow for removing the forced IRQ enable that a= re >> being done on some archs in arch_cpu_idle()? Isn't this patch expect= ing >> the default arch_cpu_idle() to have re-enabled the interrupts after >> exiting from the default idle state? Its supposed to only catch faul= ty >> cpuidle drivers that haven't enabled IRQs on exit from idle state bu= t >> are expected to have done so, isn't it? > > Exact. However x86 currently does this: > > if (cpuidle_idle_call()) > x86_idle(); > else > local_irq_enable(); > > So whenever cpuidle_idle_call() is successful then IRQs are > unconditionally enabled whether or not the underlying cpuidle driver = has > properly done it or not. And the reason is that some of the x86 cpui= dle > do fail to enable IRQs before returning. > > So the idea is to get rid of this unconditional IRQ enabling and let = the > core issue a warning instead (as well as enabling IRQs to allow the > system to run). But what I don't get with your comment is the local_irq_enable is done=20 from the cpuidle common framework in 'cpuidle_enter_state' it is not=20 done from the arch specific backend cpuidle driver. So the code above could be: if (cpuidle_idle_call()) x86_idle(); without the else section, this local_irq_enable is pointless. Or may be= =20 I missed something ? --=20 Linaro.org =E2=94=82 Open source software fo= r ARM SoCs =46ollow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Daniel Lezcano Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:44:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] idle: move the cpuidle entry point to the generic idle loop Message-Id: <52EA5720.8010000@linaro.org> List-Id: References: <1391017513-12995-1-git-send-email-nicolas.pitre@linaro.org> <1391017513-12995-2-git-send-email-nicolas.pitre@linaro.org> <52E9C946.50704@linux.vnet.ibm.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org On 01/30/2014 06:28 AM, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Preeti U Murthy wrote: > >> Hi Nicolas, >> >> On 01/30/2014 02:01 AM, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >>> >>>> In order to integrate cpuidle with the scheduler, we must have a better >>>> proximity in the core code with what cpuidle is doing and not delegate >>>> such interaction to arch code. >>>> >>>> Architectures implementing arch_cpu_idle() should simply enter >>>> a cheap idle mode in the absence of a proper cpuidle driver. >>>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Nicolas Pitre >>>> Acked-by: Daniel Lezcano >>> >>> As mentioned in my reply to Olof's comment on patch #5/6, here's a new >>> version of this patch adding the safety local_irq_enable() to the core >>> code. >>> >>> ----- >8 >>> >>> From: Nicolas Pitre >>> Subject: idle: move the cpuidle entry point to the generic idle loop >>> >>> In order to integrate cpuidle with the scheduler, we must have a better >>> proximity in the core code with what cpuidle is doing and not delegate >>> such interaction to arch code. >>> >>> Architectures implementing arch_cpu_idle() should simply enter >>> a cheap idle mode in the absence of a proper cpuidle driver. >>> >>> In both cases i.e. whether it is a cpuidle driver or the default >>> arch_cpu_idle(), the calling convention expects IRQs to be disabled >>> on entry and enabled on exit. There is a warning in place already but >>> let's add a forced IRQ enable here as well. This will allow for >>> removing the forced IRQ enable some implementations do locally and >> >> Why would this patch allow for removing the forced IRQ enable that are >> being done on some archs in arch_cpu_idle()? Isn't this patch expecting >> the default arch_cpu_idle() to have re-enabled the interrupts after >> exiting from the default idle state? Its supposed to only catch faulty >> cpuidle drivers that haven't enabled IRQs on exit from idle state but >> are expected to have done so, isn't it? > > Exact. However x86 currently does this: > > if (cpuidle_idle_call()) > x86_idle(); > else > local_irq_enable(); > > So whenever cpuidle_idle_call() is successful then IRQs are > unconditionally enabled whether or not the underlying cpuidle driver has > properly done it or not. And the reason is that some of the x86 cpuidle > do fail to enable IRQs before returning. > > So the idea is to get rid of this unconditional IRQ enabling and let the > core issue a warning instead (as well as enabling IRQs to allow the > system to run). But what I don't get with your comment is the local_irq_enable is done=20 from the cpuidle common framework in 'cpuidle_enter_state' it is not=20 done from the arch specific backend cpuidle driver. So the code above could be: if (cpuidle_idle_call()) x86_idle(); without the else section, this local_irq_enable is pointless. Or may be=20 I missed something ? --=20 Linaro.org =E2=94=82 Open source software for AR= M SoCs Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wg0-f54.google.com (mail-wg0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDB092C00E8 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 00:44:04 +1100 (EST) Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id x13so6152974wgg.21 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:43:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52EA5720.8010000@linaro.org> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:44:00 +0100 From: Daniel Lezcano MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolas Pitre , Preeti U Murthy Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] idle: move the cpuidle entry point to the generic idle loop References: <1391017513-12995-1-git-send-email-nicolas.pitre@linaro.org> <1391017513-12995-2-git-send-email-nicolas.pitre@linaro.org> <52E9C946.50704@linux.vnet.ibm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Cc: linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org, Russell King , linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra , linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mundt , Olof Johansson , Thomas Gleixner , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Ingo Molnar , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 01/30/2014 06:28 AM, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Preeti U Murthy wrote: > >> Hi Nicolas, >> >> On 01/30/2014 02:01 AM, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >>> >>>> In order to integrate cpuidle with the scheduler, we must have a better >>>> proximity in the core code with what cpuidle is doing and not delegate >>>> such interaction to arch code. >>>> >>>> Architectures implementing arch_cpu_idle() should simply enter >>>> a cheap idle mode in the absence of a proper cpuidle driver. >>>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Nicolas Pitre >>>> Acked-by: Daniel Lezcano >>> >>> As mentioned in my reply to Olof's comment on patch #5/6, here's a new >>> version of this patch adding the safety local_irq_enable() to the core >>> code. >>> >>> ----- >8 >>> >>> From: Nicolas Pitre >>> Subject: idle: move the cpuidle entry point to the generic idle loop >>> >>> In order to integrate cpuidle with the scheduler, we must have a better >>> proximity in the core code with what cpuidle is doing and not delegate >>> such interaction to arch code. >>> >>> Architectures implementing arch_cpu_idle() should simply enter >>> a cheap idle mode in the absence of a proper cpuidle driver. >>> >>> In both cases i.e. whether it is a cpuidle driver or the default >>> arch_cpu_idle(), the calling convention expects IRQs to be disabled >>> on entry and enabled on exit. There is a warning in place already but >>> let's add a forced IRQ enable here as well. This will allow for >>> removing the forced IRQ enable some implementations do locally and >> >> Why would this patch allow for removing the forced IRQ enable that are >> being done on some archs in arch_cpu_idle()? Isn't this patch expecting >> the default arch_cpu_idle() to have re-enabled the interrupts after >> exiting from the default idle state? Its supposed to only catch faulty >> cpuidle drivers that haven't enabled IRQs on exit from idle state but >> are expected to have done so, isn't it? > > Exact. However x86 currently does this: > > if (cpuidle_idle_call()) > x86_idle(); > else > local_irq_enable(); > > So whenever cpuidle_idle_call() is successful then IRQs are > unconditionally enabled whether or not the underlying cpuidle driver has > properly done it or not. And the reason is that some of the x86 cpuidle > do fail to enable IRQs before returning. > > So the idea is to get rid of this unconditional IRQ enabling and let the > core issue a warning instead (as well as enabling IRQs to allow the > system to run). But what I don't get with your comment is the local_irq_enable is done from the cpuidle common framework in 'cpuidle_enter_state' it is not done from the arch specific backend cpuidle driver. So the code above could be: if (cpuidle_idle_call()) x86_idle(); without the else section, this local_irq_enable is pointless. Or may be I missed something ? -- Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: daniel.lezcano@linaro.org (Daniel Lezcano) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:44:00 +0100 Subject: [PATCH v2 1/6] idle: move the cpuidle entry point to the generic idle loop In-Reply-To: References: <1391017513-12995-1-git-send-email-nicolas.pitre@linaro.org> <1391017513-12995-2-git-send-email-nicolas.pitre@linaro.org> <52E9C946.50704@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Message-ID: <52EA5720.8010000@linaro.org> To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org List-Id: linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org On 01/30/2014 06:28 AM, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Preeti U Murthy wrote: > >> Hi Nicolas, >> >> On 01/30/2014 02:01 AM, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >>> >>>> In order to integrate cpuidle with the scheduler, we must have a better >>>> proximity in the core code with what cpuidle is doing and not delegate >>>> such interaction to arch code. >>>> >>>> Architectures implementing arch_cpu_idle() should simply enter >>>> a cheap idle mode in the absence of a proper cpuidle driver. >>>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Nicolas Pitre >>>> Acked-by: Daniel Lezcano >>> >>> As mentioned in my reply to Olof's comment on patch #5/6, here's a new >>> version of this patch adding the safety local_irq_enable() to the core >>> code. >>> >>> ----- >8 >>> >>> From: Nicolas Pitre >>> Subject: idle: move the cpuidle entry point to the generic idle loop >>> >>> In order to integrate cpuidle with the scheduler, we must have a better >>> proximity in the core code with what cpuidle is doing and not delegate >>> such interaction to arch code. >>> >>> Architectures implementing arch_cpu_idle() should simply enter >>> a cheap idle mode in the absence of a proper cpuidle driver. >>> >>> In both cases i.e. whether it is a cpuidle driver or the default >>> arch_cpu_idle(), the calling convention expects IRQs to be disabled >>> on entry and enabled on exit. There is a warning in place already but >>> let's add a forced IRQ enable here as well. This will allow for >>> removing the forced IRQ enable some implementations do locally and >> >> Why would this patch allow for removing the forced IRQ enable that are >> being done on some archs in arch_cpu_idle()? Isn't this patch expecting >> the default arch_cpu_idle() to have re-enabled the interrupts after >> exiting from the default idle state? Its supposed to only catch faulty >> cpuidle drivers that haven't enabled IRQs on exit from idle state but >> are expected to have done so, isn't it? > > Exact. However x86 currently does this: > > if (cpuidle_idle_call()) > x86_idle(); > else > local_irq_enable(); > > So whenever cpuidle_idle_call() is successful then IRQs are > unconditionally enabled whether or not the underlying cpuidle driver has > properly done it or not. And the reason is that some of the x86 cpuidle > do fail to enable IRQs before returning. > > So the idea is to get rid of this unconditional IRQ enabling and let the > core issue a warning instead (as well as enabling IRQs to allow the > system to run). But what I don't get with your comment is the local_irq_enable is done from the cpuidle common framework in 'cpuidle_enter_state' it is not done from the arch specific backend cpuidle driver. So the code above could be: if (cpuidle_idle_call()) x86_idle(); without the else section, this local_irq_enable is pointless. Or may be I missed something ? -- Linaro.org ? Open source software for ARM SoCs Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog