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From: Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Cc: Preeti Murthy <preeti.lkml@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	nicolas.pitre@linaro.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lists linaro-kernel <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] idle: store the idle state index in the struct rq
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:09:49 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52EB6F65.8050008@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140131090230.GM5002@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi Peter,

On 01/31/2014 02:32 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 02:15:47PM +0530, Preeti Murthy wrote:
>>>
>>> If the driver does its own random mapping that will break the governor
>>> logic. So yes, the states are ordered, the higher the index is, the more you
>>> save power and the higher the exit latency is.
>>
>> The above point holds true for only the ladder governor which sees the idle
>> states indexed in the increasing order of target_residency/exit_latency.
>>
>> However this is not true as far as I can see in the menu governor. It
>> acknowledges the dynamic ordering of idle states as can be seen in the
>> menu_select() function in the menu governor, where the idle state for the
>> CPU gets chosen.  You will notice that, even if it is found that the predicted
>> idle time of the CPU is smaller than the target residency of an idle state,
>> the governor continues to search for suitable idle states in the higher indexed
>> states although it should have halted if the idle states' were ordered according
>> to their target residency.. The same holds for exit_latency.
>>
>> Hence I think this patch would make sense only with additional information
>> like exit_latency or target_residency is present for the scheduler. The idle
>> state index alone will not be sufficient.
> 
> Alternatively, can we enforce sanity on the cpuidle infrastructure to
> make the index naturally ordered? If not, please explain why :-)

The commit id 71abbbf856a0e70 says that there are SOCs which could have
their target_residency and exit_latency values change at runtime. This
commit thus removed the ordering of the idle states according to their
target_residency/exit_latency. Adding Len and Arjan to the CC.

Thanks

Regards
Preeti U Murthy

> 


  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-31  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-30 14:09 [RFC PATCH 0/3] cpuidle/sched: move main idle function in the idle.c Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] cpuidle: split cpuidle_idle_call main function into functions Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 15:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-30 15:39     ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 19:39   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-01-31 14:10     ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] cpuidle: move the cpuidle_idle_call function to idle.c Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 19:42   ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-01-30 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] idle: store the idle state index in the struct rq Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 15:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-30 16:27     ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 16:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-30 17:25         ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-30 17:50           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-30 21:02             ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-01-31  9:46               ` Vincent Guittot
2014-01-31 10:04               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-01-31 10:44               ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-31  8:45           ` Preeti Murthy
2014-01-31  9:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-31  9:39               ` Preeti U Murthy [this message]
2014-01-31 10:24                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-31 14:04                 ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-31 14:12                   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2014-01-31 15:07                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-01-31 15:37                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-31 15:50                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-01-31 16:35                       ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-01-31 16:42                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-01-31 18:19                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-01  6:00                         ` Brown, Len
2014-02-01 15:31                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-01 19:39                             ` Brown, Len
2014-02-01 20:13                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-01 15:40                           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-02-03 12:54                         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-02-03 14:38                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-03 14:56                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-03 16:17                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-11 16:41                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-11 17:12                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-11 19:47                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-12 15:16                                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-02-12 16:14                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-12 17:37                                     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-02-12 19:05                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-04  9:14                               ` Ingo Molnar
2014-02-04 14:53                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-04 14:56                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2014-02-03 14:58                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-01-31 10:15             ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-02-03  6:33               ` Preeti U Murthy

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