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From: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	Jonathan Woithe <jwoithe@just42.net>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, ffado-devel@lists.sf.net
Subject: Re: Echo Fireworks control protocol (was Re: Sample program for hwdep interface)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:53:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52F7B26E.1000703@sakamocchi.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140209155145.2175d147@stein>

> Sure, definitely; my point was that the kernel ABI which userspace mixer
> applications are going to use could be
>    a) the ALSA hwdep interface, or
>    b) the ALSA hwdep interface together with firewire-core's firewire-cdev
>       interface,
> but I understood that b) is the first choice.  Specifically, provide in
> ALSA hwdep only the absolutely necessary interfaces and do as much as
> possible via firewire-cdev.

Exactly.

> and because some devices (which ones?) may have write-only registers,
> of which both streaming driver and mixer application want to know
> what is being written there.

For this purpose, ALSA Control interface can also be used. One example 
is M-Audio 'Firewire 1814', see:
[PATCH 52/52] bebob: Add support for M-Audio special Firewire series
http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2014-January/071873.html

And See:
[alsa-devel] include/uapi/firewire.h for other firewire drivers
http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2013-November/068069.html

(This device has another bit issue but here I don't mention about it.)

> Furthermore, it can't be a kernel interface like sysfs or configfs
> because of the complexity and variety of control protocols of FireWire
> audio devices.

Indeed.


Takashi Sakamoto
o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-09 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-20 13:13 [RFC v2][PATCH 00/38] Enhancement for support of some firewire devices Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:13 ` [PATCH 01/38] firewire-lib: Rename functions, structure, member for AMDTP Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:13 ` [PATCH 02/38] firewire-lib: Add macros instead of fixed value " Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:13 ` [PATCH 03/38] firewire-lib: Add 'direction' member to 'amdtp_stream' structure Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:13 ` [PATCH 04/38] firewire-lib: Split some codes into functions to reuse for both streams Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:13 ` [PATCH 05/38] firewire-lib: Add support for AMDTP in-stream and PCM capture Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:13 ` [PATCH 06/38] firewire-lib: Add support for MIDI capture/playback Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:13 ` [PATCH 07/38] firewire-lib: Give syt value as parameter to handle_out_packet() Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:13 ` [PATCH 08/38] firewire-lib: Add support for duplex streams synchronization in blocking mode Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 09/38] firewire-lib: Add sort function for transmitted packet Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 10/38] firewire-lib: Add transfer delay to synchronized duplex streams Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 11/38] firewire-lib: Add support for channel mapping Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 12/38] firewire-lib: Rename macros, variables and functions for CMP Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 13/38] firewire-lib: Add 'direction' member to 'cmp_connection' structure Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 14/38] firewire-lib: Add handling output connection by CMP Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 15/38] firewire-lib: Add a new function to check others' connection Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 16/38] firewire-lib: Add some AV/C general commands Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 17/38] firewire-lib: Add quirks for Fireworks Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 18/38] fireworks: Add skelton for Fireworks based devices Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 19/38] fireworks: Add transaction and some commands Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 20/38] fireworks: Add connection and stream management Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 21/38] fireworks: Add proc interface for debugging purpose Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 22/38] fireworks: Add MIDI interface Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 23/38] fireworks: Add PCM interface Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 24/38] fireworks: Add hwdep interface Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 25/38] fireworks: Add command/response functionality into " Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 26/38] bebob: Add skelton for BeBoB based devices Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 27/38] bebob: Add commands and connections/streams management Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 28/38] bebob: Add proc interface for debugging purpose Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 29/38] bebob: Add MIDI interface Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 30/38] bebob: Add PCM interface Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 31/38] bebob: Add hwdep interface Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 32/38] bebob: Prepare for device specific operations Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 33/38] bebob: Add support for Terratec PHASE, EWS series and Aureon Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 34/38] bebob: Add support for Yamaha GO series Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 35/38] bebob: Add support for Focusrite Saffire/SaffirePro series Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 36/38] bebob: Add support for M-Audio usual Firewire series Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 37/38] bebob: Add support for M-Audio special " Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 13:14 ` [PATCH 38/38] bebob: Send a cue to load firmware for M-Audio " Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-20 14:46 ` Sample program for hwdep interface Takashi Sakamoto
2013-12-21 10:11   ` [FFADO-devel] " Jonathan Woithe
2013-12-21 13:48     ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-01-05 11:18     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-01-12 13:22       ` Stefan Richter
2014-01-12 15:26         ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-02-02 13:58           ` Echo Fireworks control protocol (was Re: Sample program for hwdep interface) Stefan Richter
2014-02-08 13:22             ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-02-09 11:42               ` Jonathan Woithe
2014-02-09 14:51                 ` Stefan Richter
2014-02-09 16:53                   ` Takashi Sakamoto [this message]
2014-02-09 22:29                   ` Jonathan Woithe

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