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From: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
To: John Fastabend <john.r.fastabend@intel.com>
Cc: vyasevic@redhat.com,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Scott Feldman <sfeldma@cumulusnetworks.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: bridge get fdb by bridge device
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:50:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52FCBFAD.6000408@mojatatu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52FBC282.6020301@intel.com>

On 02/12/14 13:50, John Fastabend wrote:

>
> Just to wrap things up in one email. Changing between VEB and VEPA
> modes already triggers an event. So management applications can listen
> for this.
>


Ok - reasonable.

> And I can send out a patch to add a flag to hardware bridge devices
> I'll likely get to it next week sometime unless someone beats me
> to it.
>

You understand this better - so i will wait.
I'll send an updated version of the patch this weekend
now that net-next is open.

>
> Sure, IEEE802.1Q would call these edge relays.
>

Ok, so what older kids used to call "repeaters".
The more i think about it, the more it looks like this is
still a bridge and we have a bridgeport mode as VEPA vs VEB.
IOW, as you said - you can have a bridge with mix and match of
VEB/VEPA. We can easily add such a feature to the software bridge
as well. It sounds simple and useful enough.

>
> Because it is not the same type of object as the software bridge.
> Most notably it doesn't do learning. If anything its more like a
> macvlan device and we could just as easily tag it IFF_MACVLAN. So
> because it doesn't really match 1:1 with either of those object I
> would just presume give its own flag. Userspace can always create
> a small macro call it is_bridge_like() and check for any of the
> handful of bridge like objects.
>

I think VEB/VEP may be somehow covering the "port" aspect.
The challenge is what to call "eth0 when running in SRIOV"

>>>
>>> # ip link set dev bridge0 master bridge1
>>> RTNETLINK answers: Too many levels of symbolic links
>>>
>>
>> pourquoi?  If the original rationale was to limit the
>> broadcast domain scope it sounds strange that a bridge in
>> the form a macvlan is allowed.
>>
>
> Agreed. But there it is.
>

I am sure someone knows why - Stephen?

cheers,
jamal

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-13 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <52F21F72.2090405@mojatatu.com>
     [not found] ` <52F29747.7040008@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <52F3CF76.9090404@mojatatu.com>
     [not found]     ` <52F3E357.4040006@redhat.com>
2014-02-09 15:06       ` RFC: bridge get fdb by bridge device Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-02-09 19:33         ` John Fastabend
2014-02-11 17:03           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-02-10 16:31         ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-11 17:07           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-02-11 18:21             ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-11 20:15               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-02-11 20:21                 ` John Fastabend
2014-02-11 20:30                 ` John Fastabend
2014-02-11 21:04                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-02-12 18:50                     ` John Fastabend
2014-02-13 12:50                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim [this message]
2014-02-13 15:37                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-02-13 16:03                         ` John Fastabend
2014-02-11 21:00                 ` Vlad Yasevich
2014-02-11 21:08                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-02-11 21:12                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-02-12 19:02                     ` Vlad Yasevich

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