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From: Roland Dreier <roland@topspin.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: netdev@oss.sgi.com, openib-general@openib.org
Subject: Re: Re: LLTX and netif_stop_queue
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:26:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52oegrmpi7.fsf@topspin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52sm63mqtk.fsf@topspin.com> (Roland Dreier's message of "Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:58:15 -0800")

    Roland> So it seems LLTX can be replaced by just having drivers
    Roland> use net_device.xmit_lock instead of their own private
    Roland> tx_lock.  Assuming this works (and I don't see anything
    Roland> wrong with it) then this seems like a pretty nice
    Roland> solution: we remove some code from the networking core and
    Roland> get rid of all the "trylock" logic in driver's
    Roland> hard_start_xmit.

Actually trying it instead of talking out of my ass...

Just doing this naively without changing the net core can deadlock
because the net core acquires dev->xmit_lock without disabling
interrupts.  So if the driver tries to use xmit_lock in its interrupt
handler, it will deadlock if the interrupt occurred during
hard_start_xmit.  Even doing local_irq_save() in hard_start_xmit isn't
good enough, because there's still a window between the net core's
call to hard_start_xmit and the actual local_irq_save where xmit_lock
is held with interrupts on.

Maybe it makes sense to change NETIF_F_LLTX to NETIF_F_TX_IRQ_DIS or
something like that and have that flag mean "disable interrupts when
calling hard_start_xmit."  (We could just do this unconditionally but
I'm not sure if any drivers rely on having interrupts enabled during
hard_start_xmit and I'm worried about making a change in semantics
like that -- not to mention some drivers may not need interrupts
disabled and may not want the cost).

 - Roland

  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-18 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-17 21:57 LLTX and netif_stop_queue Roland Dreier
2004-12-18  5:44 ` David S. Miller
2004-12-18 15:35   ` Roland Dreier
2004-12-18 17:58     ` Roland Dreier
2004-12-18 18:26       ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2004-12-19 19:33     ` jamal
2004-12-19 19:31   ` jamal
2004-12-19 19:54     ` jamal
2004-12-19 20:02       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2004-12-19 22:35     ` Roland Dreier
2004-12-19 23:06       ` jamal
2004-12-19 23:16         ` Roland Dreier
2004-12-22 18:49     ` Eric Lemoine
2004-12-23  4:29       ` David S. Miller
2004-12-23  4:38         ` Roland Dreier
2004-12-23  9:10         ` Eric Lemoine
2004-12-23 16:37           ` Patrick McHardy
2004-12-23 18:11             ` Eric Lemoine
2004-12-24 16:10             ` Eric Lemoine
2004-12-28 13:31               ` jamal
2005-01-02 23:30                 ` Eric Lemoine
2005-01-03  7:41                   ` Eric Lemoine
2005-01-03 15:04                   ` jamal
2005-01-03 15:48                     ` Eric Lemoine
2005-01-03 15:57                     ` Roland Dreier
2005-01-03 16:41                       ` Eric Lemoine
2005-01-03 16:54                         ` Roland Dreier
2005-01-03 17:07                           ` Eric Lemoine
2005-01-03 17:12                             ` Grant Grundler
2005-01-04  4:18                               ` jamal
2005-01-19 22:47                                 ` David S. Miller
2005-01-19 23:18                                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-01-19 23:41                                     ` David S. Miller
2005-01-20  0:02                                       ` [openib-general] " Jeff Garzik
2005-01-20  0:46                                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-01-20  0:47                                           ` David S. Miller
2005-01-20  0:47                                       ` Francois Romieu
2005-01-20  0:52                                         ` David S. Miller
2005-01-20  1:17                                           ` Francois Romieu
2005-01-20  0:46                                     ` [PATCH]: was " David S. Miller
2005-01-20  3:14                                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-20  7:05                                         ` David S. Miller
2005-01-20  3:43                                       ` Roland Dreier
2005-01-20  7:05                                         ` David S. Miller
2005-01-20 13:51                                           ` Tommy Christensen
2005-01-20 21:34                                             ` David S. Miller
2005-01-20 21:56                                               ` Grant Grundler
2005-01-21  1:01                                                 ` David S. Miller
2005-01-22  3:17                                                   ` Roland Dreier
2005-01-22  3:53                                                     ` David S. Miller
2005-01-20 21:41                                             ` David S. Miller
2005-01-20 16:56                                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-01-21 10:54                                             ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-01-26  6:27                                               ` David S. Miller
2005-01-26 13:25                                                 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-01-27  6:32                                                   ` David S. Miller
2005-01-27  7:16                                                     ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-27  7:22                                                       ` David S. Miller
2005-01-27  8:26                                                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-20 19:16                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-01-20  4:01                                       ` jamal
2005-01-20  5:18                                         ` David S. Miller

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