From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
To: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
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Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v5 4/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair spinlock in a real PV environment
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 14:40:13 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <530F949D.6050609@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <530F2F7B.40500@citrix.com>
On 02/27/2014 07:28 AM, David Vrabel wrote:
> On 26/02/14 15:14, Waiman Long wrote:
>> Locking is always an issue in a virtualized environment as the virtual
>> CPU that is waiting on a lock may get scheduled out and hence block
>> any progress in lock acquisition even when the lock has been freed.
>>
>> One solution to this problem is to allow unfair lock in a
>> para-virtualized environment. In this case, a new lock acquirer can
>> come and steal the lock if the next-in-line CPU to get the lock is
>> scheduled out. Unfair lock in a native environment is generally not a
>> good idea as there is a possibility of lock starvation for a heavily
>> contended lock.
> I'm not sure I'm keen on losing the fairness in PV environment. I'm
> concerned that on an over-committed host, the lock starvation problem
> will be particularly bad.
>
> But I'll have to revist this once a non-broken PV qspinlock
> implementation exists (or someone explains how the proposed one works).
>
> David
On second thought, the unfair qspinlock may not be as bad as other
unfair locks. Basically, a task gets one chance to steal the lock. If it
can't, it will go to the back of the queue and wait for its turn. So
unless a single CPU can monopolize a lock by acquiring it again
immediately after release, all the tasks queuing up will eventually has
its chance of getting the lock.
-Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-27 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-26 15:14 [PATCH v5 0/8] qspinlock: a 4-byte queue spinlock with PV support Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] qspinlock: Introducing a 4-byte queue spinlock implementation Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 16:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-26 16:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-27 20:25 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 20:25 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-26 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-27 20:25 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 20:25 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] qspinlock, x86: Enable x86-64 to use queue spinlock Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] qspinlock, x86: Add x86 specific optimization for 2 contending tasks Waiman Long
2014-02-26 16:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-27 20:42 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-28 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 16:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-28 16:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-28 17:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 17:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 16:38 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-28 17:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 17:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-03 17:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-03 17:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 15:27 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-04 15:27 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-04 16:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 16:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 18:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 18:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 17:48 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-04 22:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 22:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-05 20:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-05 20:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-04 17:48 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-28 16:38 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 20:42 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 16:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH RFC v5 4/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair spinlock in a real PV environment Waiman Long
2014-02-26 17:07 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-28 17:06 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-28 17:06 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-03 10:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-03 10:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 15:15 ` Waiman Long
2014-03-04 15:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 15:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 15:39 ` David Vrabel
2014-03-04 15:39 ` David Vrabel
2014-03-04 17:50 ` Raghavendra K T
2014-03-04 17:50 ` Raghavendra K T
2014-03-04 15:15 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 17:07 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-27 12:28 ` David Vrabel
2014-02-27 19:40 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 19:40 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2014-02-27 12:28 ` David Vrabel
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH RFC v5 5/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Enable unfair queue spinlock in a KVM guest Waiman Long
2014-02-26 17:08 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-28 17:08 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-28 17:08 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 17:08 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-27 9:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 9:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 19:05 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 19:05 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 10:40 ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-27 19:12 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 19:12 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 10:40 ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH RFC v5 6/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Rename paravirt_ticketlocks_enabled Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH RFC v5 7/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Add qspinlock para-virtualization support Waiman Long
2014-02-26 17:54 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-26 17:54 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-27 12:11 ` David Vrabel
2014-02-27 13:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 13:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 14:18 ` David Vrabel
2014-02-27 14:18 ` David Vrabel
2014-02-27 14:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 15:22 ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-27 15:22 ` Raghavendra K T
2014-02-27 15:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-03 11:06 ` David Vrabel
2014-03-03 11:06 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2014-02-27 15:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 20:50 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 20:50 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 19:42 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 19:42 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 14:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 12:11 ` David Vrabel
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 15:14 ` [PATCH RFC v5 8/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Enable KVM to use qspinlock's PV support Waiman Long
2014-02-27 9:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 18:36 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 18:36 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-27 9:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-26 15:14 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 17:00 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] qspinlock: a 4-byte queue spinlock with " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-28 16:56 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-28 16:56 ` Waiman Long
2014-02-26 17:00 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-02-26 22:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-26 22:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-02-27 4:32 Waiman Long
2014-02-27 4:32 ` [PATCH RFC v5 4/8] pvqspinlock, x86: Allow unfair spinlock in a real PV environment Waiman Long
2014-02-27 4:32 ` Waiman Long
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