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From: James Carlson <carlsonj@workingcode.com>
To: linux-ppp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PPPD plugin development
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 15:14:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <531DD6E1.3040003@workingcode.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <531BEBF2.3020508@gmail.com>

On 03/10/14 10:23, Greg wrote:
> I'm attempting to authenticate a user who is trying to connect to pptp
> via an external means.
> 
> They would sign up on the site and have the username and password stored
> in a database(I do not want direct database access).  The password would
> be encrypted(MD5).

MD5 isn't encryption.  It's hashing.  The big difference is that hashes
are (by design) not reversible.

What you're describing just cannot be done because it's architecturally
flawed.  PAP, by design, passes the raw password on the wire, which
means that the recipient (the authenticator) can do the usual sort of
hashed password comparison: look up the stored hashed password, compute
a hash based on the input, and compare results.

CHAP doesn't work that way.  With CHAP, the authenticator presents a
Challenge to the authenticatee.  That authenticatee then computes a hash
and sends it back.  The authenticator then must look up the CLEAR TEXT
passphrase, compute a hash based on the CLEAR TEXT and the challenge,
and compare results.

Note that important part in the previous paragraph: with PAP, the server
need not store the original password, but with CHAP, it MUST.  This is
exactly how it's designed.  See RFC 1994.

Of course, MS-CHAP is a little different.  What it does is compute an
intermediate passphrase based on an MD4 (not MD5) hash of what the user
believes to be the password.  This intermediate passphrase is then used
as the actual passphrase for the challenge/response handshake.  (Indeed,
there's no need for either side to know the original user's password;
storing just the intermediate value works as well.  You can do the same
with regular CHAP so why the MD4 part is written into the protocol is
beyond me.  Individual submissions are strange like that.)

I guess that whoever designed that database didn't take that wrinkle
into account.

That issue aside, PPTP as I understand it generally requires the MS-CHAP
variant and MPPE.  So, if you're the autenticator, you should have
"require-mschap" or (more likely) "require-mschapv2", plus
"require-mppe" among your configuration options.

> I'm attempting to write an authenticator on the server itself.
> 
> As for the debugging, how can I provide that for you?

Text works.  Use the "debug" option and make sure that syslog
"daemon.debug" is directed to a file.

Or if syslog isn't an option for some reason, then use the "logfile
/tmp/pppd.log" option to direct the log messages to the specified file.
 (You can choose any file name you like, of course.)

> The code is attached.

In your code, "challenge" and "response" are not strings, so printing
them that way (even for debug) isn't going to work so well.  These are
arrays of bytes.

>> I don't believe it can end up being anything else, given the current
>> design.
> It's empty.

I still don't understand.  Integers aren't "empty."

>>> I've also made it return 1 so that no matter what I enter, it should
>>> show authenticated.
>>>
>>> digest->code writes as blank.
>> "writes"?
> I'm writing the output of the variables to a file.
> I've tried writing the value of digest->code to a file. it's empty or
> being interpreted in such a way that it's not writing anything to the file.

Does the file get created at all?  If so, does it have zero length?

Not writing anything to the file doesn't suggest that digest->code is
empty.  It suggests that something in your code is falling apart.

There's at least one obvious bug here: that switch statement doesn't
work because it lacks "break;" between the cases.  Thus, everything
falls down to just "Default."  Instead of this:

        case CHAP_MICROSOFT:
        {
          codemess = "MIC";
        }
        case CHAP_MICROSOFT_V2:
        {
          codemess = "MV2";
        }
        case CHAP_MD5:
        {
          codemess = "MD5";
        }
        default:
          codemess = "Default";
}

Try this:

        case CHAP_MICROSOFT:
        {
          codemess = "MIC"; break;
        }
        case CHAP_MICROSOFT_V2:
        {
          codemess = "MV2"; break;
        }
        case CHAP_MD5:
        {
          codemess = "MD5"; break;
        }
        default:
          codemess = "Default";
}

I don't know what else might be wrong.

For what it's worth, I suggest using the logging functions in util.c
(fatal, error, warn, notice, info, dbglog) rather than rolling your own
with fprintf.  Even with "just" debug code, I think it's easier to use
the existing infrastructure.

-- 
James Carlson         42.703N 71.076W         <carlsonj@workingcode.com>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-10 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-09  4:20 pppd plugin development Greg
2014-03-09 14:14 ` Greg
2014-03-10 12:31 ` PPPD " Greg
2014-03-10 14:01 ` James Carlson
2014-03-10 14:23 ` Greg
2014-03-10 15:14 ` James Carlson [this message]
2014-03-11  4:56 ` Greg
2014-03-11  9:55 ` Greg
2014-03-11 16:56 ` James Carlson

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