From: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
To: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [RCU PATCH 00/14] Remove qdisc lock around ingress Qdisc
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 02:58:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53200588.5060805@mojatatu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140310170008.3011.73599.stgit@nitbit.x32>
On 03/10/14 13:03, John Fastabend wrote:
> This series drops the qdisc lock that is currently protecting the
> ingress qdisc. This can be done after the tcf filters are made
> lockless and the statistic accounting is safe to run without locks.
>
> To do this the classifiers are converted to use RCU. This requires
> updating each classifier individually to handle the new copy/update
> requirement and also to update the core list traversals. This is
> done in patches 2-11. This also makes the assumption that updates
> to the tables are infrequent in comparison to the packet per second
> being classified. On a 10Gbps running near line rate we can easily
> produce 12+ million packets per second so IMO this is a reasonable
> assumption. And the updates are serialized by RTNL.
>
I am in travel mode and dont have much cycles to do full review
and the patch set seems to be based on what we discussed earlier.
I worry on whether the assumption that table updates being
infrequent is going to cripple some of the use cases that have
made the interface powerful. Cant find a presentation i did a
while back nor my data (i will look when i get back)- but one of the
things we prided on was ability to do extremely fast updates (both
latency and throughput) even in presence of datapath activity.
My comparison at the time was against netfilter (we were about
a magnitude faster).
So a good metric is to pick some classifier and action - then do
table updates with no traffic as a base metric and with your changes
after. Likewise with traffic.
BTW: does this mean there may be lack of sync between what the
control update is doing and what is being used in the datapath?
cheers,
jamal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-12 6:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-10 17:03 [RCU PATCH 00/14] Remove qdisc lock around ingress Qdisc John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:03 ` [RCU PATCH 01/14] net: qdisc: use rcu prefix and silence sparse warnings John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-10 17:04 ` [RCU PATCH 02/14] net: rcu-ify tcf_proto John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-10 17:04 ` [RCU PATCH 03/14] net: sched: cls_basic use RCU John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-10 17:04 ` [RCU PATCH 04/14] net: sched: cls_cgroup " John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:36 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-10 17:05 ` [RCU PATCH 05/14] net: sched: cls_flow " John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-10 17:05 ` [RCU PATCH 06/14] net: sched: fw " John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-12 16:41 ` John Fastabend
2014-03-12 17:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-13 20:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-13 20:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-13 21:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-14 5:43 ` John Fastabend
2014-03-14 13:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-14 13:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-14 15:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-14 18:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-14 18:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-14 19:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-14 20:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-16 16:06 ` [PATCH net-next] net: sched: use no more than one page in struct fw_head Eric Dumazet
2014-03-17 13:51 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-17 14:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-17 14:29 ` David Laight
2014-03-17 15:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-17 15:30 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-17 15:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-17 15:43 ` David Laight
2014-03-17 15:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-17 15:28 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-17 15:50 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-17 16:00 ` David Laight
2014-03-17 16:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-18 2:31 ` David Miller
2014-03-18 3:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-18 3:20 ` [PATCH v2 " Eric Dumazet
2014-03-18 9:19 ` Thomas Graf
2014-03-18 18:18 ` David Miller
2014-03-10 17:06 ` [RCU PATCH 07/14] net: sched: RCU cls_route John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-10 19:36 ` John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:06 ` [RCU PATCH 08/14] net: sched: RCU cls_tcindex John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:07 ` [RCU PATCH 09/14] net: sched: make cls_u32 lockless John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-10 17:07 ` [RCU PATCH 10/14] net: sched: rcu'ify cls_rsvp John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:07 ` [RCU PATCH 11/14] net: make cls_bpf rcu safe John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:08 ` [RCU PATCH 12/14] net: sched: make tc_action safe to walk under RCU John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:08 ` [RCU PATCH 13/14] net: sched: make bstats per cpu and estimator RCU safe John Fastabend
2014-03-10 18:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-10 19:36 ` John Fastabend
2014-03-10 17:09 ` [RCU PATCH 14/14] net: sched: drop ingress qdisc lock John Fastabend
2014-03-11 20:36 ` [RCU PATCH 00/14] Remove qdisc lock around ingress Qdisc David Miller
2014-03-11 20:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-12 6:58 ` Jamal Hadi Salim [this message]
2014-03-12 16:45 ` John Fastabend
2014-03-13 8:44 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-14 7:28 ` John Fastabend
2014-03-14 7:45 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2014-03-12 18:25 ` Cong Wang
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