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From: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@citrix.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>, Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>
Subject: Re: RING_HAS_UNCONSUMED_REQUESTS oddness
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:27:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53206ED4.1030507@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1394620083.21145.21.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>

On 12/03/14 10:28, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-03-11 at 23:24 +0000, Zoltan Kiss wrote:
>> On 11/03/14 15:44, Ian Campbell wrote:
>
>>> Is it the case that this macro considers a request to be unconsumed if
>>> the *response* to a request is outstanding as well as if the request
>>> itself is still on the ring?
>> I don't think that would make sense. I think everywhere where this macro
>> is called the caller is not interested in pending request (pending means
>> consumed but not responded)
>
> It might be interested in such pending requests in some of the
> pathological cases I allude to in the next paragraph though?
>
> For example if the ring has unconsumed requests but there are no slots
> free for a response, it would be better to treat it as no unconsumed
> requests until space opens up for a response, otherwise something else
> just has to abort the processing of the request when it notices the lack
> of space.
>
> (I'm totally speculating here BTW, I don't have any concrete idea why
> things are done this way...)
>
>
>>> I wonder if this apparently weird construction is due to pathological
>>> cases when one or the other end is not picking up requests/responses?
>>> i.e. trying to avoid deadlocking the ring or generating an interrupt
>>> storm when the ring it is full of one or the other or something along
>>> those lines?
>
>

Also, let me quote again my example about when rsp makes sense:

"To clarify what does this do, let me show an example:
req_prod = 253
req_cons = 256
rsp_prod_pvt = 0

req will be UINT_MAX-2, as the values changed in the meantime, and rsp 
is 0. It's reasonable to return 0 here, as the backend hasn't replied 
anything yet, so we clearly shouldn't have any unconsumed request in the 
ring."

Zoli

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-12 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-06 15:47 RING_HAS_UNCONSUMED_REQUESTS oddness Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-06 15:53 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-06 16:31   ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-06 17:30     ` Tim Deegan
2014-03-06 21:39       ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-07  9:23         ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-07 17:43           ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-07 12:02         ` Wei Liu
2014-03-07 18:58           ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-11 15:55         ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-11 23:34           ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-13 16:38       ` [PATCH RFC] xen/public/ring.h: simplify RING_HAS_UNCONSUMED_REQUESTS() Tim Deegan
2014-03-22 14:18         ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-22 17:14           ` Tim Deegan
2014-03-24  7:38             ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-24  9:39               ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-24  9:59                 ` Jan Beulich
2014-03-24 11:03                   ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-24 12:23               ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-24 13:52                 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-24 23:55                   ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-04-03  9:38         ` Tim Deegan
2014-04-03 15:34           ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-11 15:44 ` RING_HAS_UNCONSUMED_REQUESTS oddness Ian Campbell
2014-03-11 23:24   ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-12 10:28     ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-12 10:48       ` Roger Pau Monné
2014-03-12 11:25       ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-12 11:38       ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-12 14:41         ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-12 15:23           ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-12 15:42             ` Wei Liu
2014-03-12 15:56               ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-12 16:02               ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-12 16:13               ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-12 16:42                 ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-12 19:06                   ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-13  9:26                     ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-13 10:02                       ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-13 10:58                         ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-13 12:19                           ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-13 12:28                             ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-13 12:29                               ` Paul Durrant
2014-03-13 12:44                               ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-12 14:25       ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-12 14:27       ` Zoltan Kiss [this message]
2014-03-12 14:30         ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-12 15:14           ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-12 15:37             ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-12 17:14               ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-12 17:43                 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-12 21:10                   ` Zoltan Kiss
2014-03-13 10:04                     ` Ian Campbell

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