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From: Alexander Holler <holler-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
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	Linus Walleij
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] gpio: davinci: fix gpio selection for OF
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:45:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <532815A8.9090807@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <532805AE.9000806-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>

Am 18.03.2014 09:37, schrieb Sekhar Nori:

> It is safe - at the least it does not break anything that is already
> working. I guess the decision to put it into -rc depends on whether you
> consider out of tree dtbs to be a valid usecase for the kernel.

That's all DT is about, getting rid of the necessity for in-tree 
hw-descriptions. ;)

But I don't need any rush here, I'm just unable to understand why the 
-rc phase isn't used for bug fixing as I believe that's what this phase 
is for.

Most people are unable to track the various -next trees, therefor many 
failures only come up when stuff reaches mainline where it might be 
tested by some more people. And if all bugs found in the -rc phase are 
fixed in -next only, the -rc phase would be useless.

And it just happened to me too often, that even silly bugfixes (like 
oneliners) needed between 5 and 9 months to reach a stable kernel and 
thus users.

Regards,

Alexander Holler
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From: holler@ahsoftware.de (Alexander Holler)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2] gpio: davinci: fix gpio selection for OF
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:45:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <532815A8.9090807@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <532805AE.9000806@ti.com>

Am 18.03.2014 09:37, schrieb Sekhar Nori:

> It is safe - at the least it does not break anything that is already
> working. I guess the decision to put it into -rc depends on whether you
> consider out of tree dtbs to be a valid usecase for the kernel.

That's all DT is about, getting rid of the necessity for in-tree 
hw-descriptions. ;)

But I don't need any rush here, I'm just unable to understand why the 
-rc phase isn't used for bug fixing as I believe that's what this phase 
is for.

Most people are unable to track the various -next trees, therefor many 
failures only come up when stuff reaches mainline where it might be 
tested by some more people. And if all bugs found in the -rc phase are 
fixed in -next only, the -rc phase would be useless.

And it just happened to me too often, that even silly bugfixes (like 
oneliners) needed between 5 and 9 months to reach a stable kernel and 
thus users.

Regards,

Alexander Holler

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de>
To: Sekhar Nori <nsekhar@ti.com>, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com" 
	<davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com>,
	Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	Prabhakar Lad <prabhakar.csengg@gmail.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] gpio: davinci: fix gpio selection for OF
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:45:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <532815A8.9090807@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <532805AE.9000806@ti.com>

Am 18.03.2014 09:37, schrieb Sekhar Nori:

> It is safe - at the least it does not break anything that is already
> working. I guess the decision to put it into -rc depends on whether you
> consider out of tree dtbs to be a valid usecase for the kernel.

That's all DT is about, getting rid of the necessity for in-tree 
hw-descriptions. ;)

But I don't need any rush here, I'm just unable to understand why the 
-rc phase isn't used for bug fixing as I believe that's what this phase 
is for.

Most people are unable to track the various -next trees, therefor many 
failures only come up when stuff reaches mainline where it might be 
tested by some more people. And if all bugs found in the -rc phase are 
fixed in -next only, the -rc phase would be useless.

And it just happened to me too often, that even silly bugfixes (like 
oneliners) needed between 5 and 9 months to reach a stable kernel and 
thus users.

Regards,

Alexander Holler

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-18  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <5315ED51.1000006@ti.com>
     [not found] ` <5315ED51.1000006-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-04 22:06   ` [PATCH] gpio: davinci: fix gpio selection for OF Alexander Holler
2014-03-04 22:06     ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-04 22:06     ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]     ` <1393970762-5346-1-git-send-email-holler-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-05  2:27       ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-05  2:27         ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-05  2:27         ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-05 10:43       ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-03-05 10:43         ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-03-05 10:43         ` Grygorii Strashko
     [not found]         ` <5316FFCE.1060603-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-05 11:21           ` [PATCH v2] " Alexander Holler
2014-03-05 11:21             ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-05 11:21             ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]             ` <1394018461-757-1-git-send-email-holler-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-05 13:12               ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-03-05 13:12                 ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-03-05 13:12                 ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-03-11 10:15             ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-11 10:15               ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]               ` <CACRpkdaF=jc9Z1XZCtH8VPuih01t--qyV-sgH1R_ix0VM4RzVA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-14 10:08                 ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-14 10:08                   ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-14 10:08                   ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-14 11:02                   ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-14 11:02                     ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-14 12:38                     ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-14 12:38                       ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-14 13:54                       ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-14 13:54                         ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-14 18:33                         ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-14 18:33                           ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-14 19:52                           ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-14 19:52                             ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-15  7:37                             ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-15  7:37                               ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-17 13:29                     ` Sekhar Nori
2014-03-17 13:29                       ` Sekhar Nori
2014-03-17 13:29                       ` Sekhar Nori
2014-03-17 14:05                       ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-17 14:05                         ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]                         ` <CACRpkdYZMzw31NkA4uSq+ZowzOnZgZthXhZri-eJY2Ozb8aNRQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-18  8:37                           ` Sekhar Nori
2014-03-18  8:37                             ` Sekhar Nori
2014-03-18  8:37                             ` Sekhar Nori
     [not found]                             ` <532805AE.9000806-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-18  9:45                               ` Alexander Holler [this message]
2014-03-18  9:45                                 ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-18  9:45                                 ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]                                 ` <532815A8.9090807-SXC+2es9fhnfWeYVQQPykw@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-18 10:54                                   ` Sekhar Nori
2014-03-18 10:54                                     ` Sekhar Nori
2014-03-18 10:54                                     ` Sekhar Nori
2014-03-21  8:28                                   ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-21  8:28                                     ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-21  8:28                                     ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-21  8:59                                     ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-21  8:59                                       ` Alexander Holler
     [not found]                       ` <5326F8C5.5090406-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-17 14:11                         ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-17 14:11                           ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-17 14:11                           ` Alexander Holler
2014-03-17 14:13                           ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-17 14:13                             ` Linus Walleij
2014-03-17 15:04                         ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-03-17 15:04                           ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-03-17 15:04                           ` Grygorii Strashko

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