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From: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Monam Agarwal <monamagarwal123@gmail.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, jasowang@redhat.com, xemul@parallels.com,
	wuzhy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, therbert@google.com, yamato@redhat.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drivers/net: Use RCU_INIT_POINTER(x, NULL) in tun.c
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 16:47:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <532FF124.1030209@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1395638727.9117.55.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>

On 03/24/2014 01:25 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 07:09 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> 
>> Seems an incredibly strict requirement for something that just
>> silences a warning.
>> What exactly should I test?
>> I intended to just verify this produces same code as before
>> d322f45ceed525daa under a recent gcc.
> 
> Thats because many rcu_assign_pointer(X, NULL) were already converted to
> RCU_INIT_POINTER(X, NULL)
> 
> Quite frankly I don't know why you bother at all.
> 
> Adding back the lazy test in rcu_assign_pointer() doesn't help to make
> the API cleaner and easier to understand.
> 
> People are usually using RCU API without really understanding
> all the issues. They tend to add superfluous barriers because they feel
> better. 
> 
> Having separate RCU_INIT_POINTER() and rcu_assign_pointer() serve as
> better documentation of the code, I find it more easier to immediately
> check what is going on while reviewing stuff.
> 
> Presumably, checkpatch.pl could be augmented to suggest to use
> RCU_INIT_POINTER(X, NULL) instead of rcu_assign_pointer(X, NULL)


I prefer rcu_assign_pointer(X, NULL) than RCU_INIT_POINTER(X, NULL),
NULL should not be a special pointer value to the users of RCU.

the RCU implements should hide the difference if RCU implements
differentiate the values for optimization.

RCU_INIT_POINTER() sounds as an initialization-stage API. If we need
something different for NULL pointer, I prefer
rcu_assign_*null*_pointer().

rcu_assign_pointer(X, NULL) implies compiler barrier(), but
RCU_INIT_POINTER(X, NULL) doesn't.

> 
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-24  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-23 18:32 [PATCH] drivers/net: Use RCU_INIT_POINTER(x, NULL) in tun.c Monam Agarwal
2014-03-23 19:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-03-23 19:54   ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-23 21:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-03-23 22:12       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-24  5:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-03-24  5:25           ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-24  6:22             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-03-24  8:57               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-03-24 12:53               ` Eric Dumazet
2014-03-24  8:47             ` Lai Jiangshan [this message]
2014-03-24 13:38               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-03-26  1:19 ` David Miller

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