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From: Matias Bjorling <m@bjorling.me>
To: Akira Hayakawa <hayakawa@valinux.co.jp>,
	device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	snitzer@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, agk@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH RFC v1 01/01] dm-lightnvm: An open FTL for open firmware SSDs
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:45:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5330FBD5.5000103@bjorling.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140325112217.a3d34601d745ace3fbc07c0f@valinux.co.jp>

On 03/24/2014 07:22 PM, Akira Hayakawa wrote:
> Hi, Matias,
> 
> Sorry for jumping in. I am interested in this new feature, too.
> 
>>> Does it even make sense to expose the underlying devices as block
>>> devices?  It surely would help to send this together with a driver
>>> that you plan to use it on top of.
>>>
>>
>> Agree, an underlying driver is missing. My first plan is to get a draft
>> firmware for the OpenSSD to be stable and expose its primitives
>> (read/write/erase) up through the ATA/SCSI stack. Communicating using
>> vendor specific codes.
> 

Hi Akira,

Indeed. Most of Mohit's work can be applied with this layer. In the same
breath we could also look into nameless writes. It would up open for a
new design for co-operating file systems.

> Exposing FTL to the host layer has potential to share mapping in cache software (or driver) and the device.
> The "Unified Address Space" in the slides below addresses the problem of two levels of indirection.
> http://www1.unine.ch/eurosys2012/posters/saxena.pdf
> 
> Developing API to share mapping between driver and the device sounds interesting, too.
> 
> --
> Akira
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-25  3:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-21  6:32 [PATCH RFC v1 00/01] dm-lightnvm introduction Matias Bjørling
2014-03-21  6:32 ` Matias Bjørling
2014-03-21  6:32 ` [PATCH RFC v1 01/01] dm-lightnvm: An open FTL for open firmware SSDs Matias Bjørling
2014-03-21 15:09   ` Mike Snitzer
2014-03-21 15:09     ` Mike Snitzer
2014-03-21 15:26     ` Matias Bjorling
2014-03-21 15:26       ` Matias Bjorling
2014-03-21 15:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-03-21 16:24     ` Matias Bjorling
2014-03-25  2:22       ` [dm-devel] " Akira Hayakawa
2014-03-25  3:45         ` Matias Bjorling [this message]
2014-03-24  6:13     ` Bart Van Assche
2014-03-25  3:30       ` Matias Bjorling
2014-03-25 11:38         ` Takashi HOSHINO
2014-03-25 11:38           ` [dm-devel] " Takashi HOSHINO
2014-03-21  9:06 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH RFC v1 00/01] dm-lightnvm introduction Joe Thornber
2014-03-21 15:22   ` Matias Bjorling
2014-03-25  3:08     ` David Lang
2014-03-25  3:56       ` Matias Bjorling
2014-03-25  3:56         ` Matias Bjorling
2014-03-25 17:23         ` Richard Weinberger
2014-03-21 15:32 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-03-21 15:32   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-03-21 16:42   ` Matias Bjorling

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