From: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>
To: Ronnie Sahlberg <sahlberg@google.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] Make update refs more atomic
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 08:36:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <534CD376.7080108@alum.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1397500163-7617-1-git-send-email-sahlberg@google.com>
On 04/14/2014 08:29 PM, Ronnie Sahlberg wrote:
> refs.c:ref_transaction_commit() intermingles doing updates and checks with
> actually applying changes to the refs in loops that abort on error.
> This is done one ref at a time and means that if an error is detected that
> will fail the operation partway through the list of refs to update we
> will end up with some changes applied to disk and others not.
>
> Without having transaction support from the filesystem, it is hard to
> make an update that involves multiple refs to guarantee atomicity, but we
> can do a somewhat better than we currently do.
It took me a moment to understand what you were talking about here,
because the code for ref_transaction_commit() already seems
superficially to do reference modifications in phases. The problem is
that write_ref_sha1() internally contains additional checks that can
fail in "normal" circumstances. So the most important part of this
patch series is allowing those checks to be done before committing anything.
> These patches change the update and delete functions to use a three
> call pattern of
>
> 1, lock
> 2, update, or flag for deletion
> 3, apply on disk (rename() or unlink())
>
> When a transaction is commited we first do all the locking, preparations
> and most of the error checking before we actually start applying any changes
> to the filesystem store.
>
> This means that more of the error cases that will fail the commit
> will trigger before we start doing any changes to the actual files.
>
>
> This should make the changes of refs in refs_transaction_commit slightly
> more atomic.
> [...]
Yes, this is a good and important goal.
I wonder, however, whether your approach of changing callers from
lock = lock_ref_sha1_basic() (or varient of)
write_ref_sha1(lock)
to
lock = lock_ref_sha1_basic() (or varient of)
write_ref_sha1(lock)
unlock_ref(lock) | commit_ref_lock(lock)
is not doing work that we will soon need to rework. Would it be jumping
the gun to change the callers to
transaction = ref_transaction_begin();
ref_transaction_{update,delete,etc}(transaction, ...);
ref_transaction_{commit,rollback}(transaction, ...);
instead? Then we could bury the details of calling write_ref_sha1() and
commit_lock_ref() inside ref_transaction_commit() rather than having to
expose them in the public API.
I suspect that the answer is "no, ref transactions are not yet powerful
enough to do everything that the callers need". But then I would
suggest that we *make* them powerful enough and *then* make the change
at the callers.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't accept your change as a first step [1]
and do the next step later, but wanted to get your reaction about making
the first step a bit more ambitious.
Michael
[1] Though I still need to review your patch series in detail.
--
Michael Haggerty
mhagger@alum.mit.edu
http://softwareswirl.blogspot.com/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-15 6:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-14 18:29 [PATCH v4 0/3] Make update refs more atomic Ronnie Sahlberg
2014-04-14 18:29 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] refs.c: split writing and commiting a ref into two separate functions Ronnie Sahlberg
2014-04-15 11:17 ` Michael Haggerty
2014-04-14 18:29 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] refs.c: split delete_ref_loose() into a separate flag-for-deletion and commit phase Ronnie Sahlberg
2014-04-15 17:19 ` Michael Haggerty
2014-04-14 18:29 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] refs.c: change ref_transaction_commit to run the commit loops once all work is finished Ronnie Sahlberg
2014-04-14 20:24 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Make update refs more atomic Junio C Hamano
2014-04-15 16:41 ` Ronnie Sahlberg
2014-04-15 6:36 ` Michael Haggerty [this message]
2014-04-15 16:33 ` Ronnie Sahlberg
2014-04-15 20:32 ` Michael Haggerty
2014-04-16 17:11 ` Ronnie Sahlberg
2014-04-16 19:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-16 21:31 ` Ronnie Sahlberg
2014-04-16 21:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-16 21:51 ` Michael Haggerty
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