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From: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>
To: chenweilong <chenweilong@huawei.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: kaber@trash.net, davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch net-next] vlan: Don't allow vlan devices to change network namespaces.
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:23:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53576A6F.2020207@6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5357280C.1000404@huawei.com>

Le 23/04/2014 04:40, chenweilong a écrit :
> On 2014/4/22 22:26, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 20:43 +0800, Chen Weilong wrote:
>>> From: Weilong Chen <chenweilong@huawei.com>
>>>
>>> Like bonding, vlan as netdevice doesn't cross netns boundaries.
>>>
>>> Vlan port and vlan itself live in same netns.
>>
>> Please explain why you believe it should be like that.
>>
>> bonding and vlan have quite different purpose, so your changelog is
>> quite obscure.
>>
>> We had a discussion like this one with macvlan, and prior patch was
>> rejected.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> This idea comes from the different result of two changing namespace orders.
> Test on eth1 and its vlan eth1.5, move them form default ns to a new ns called net0.
> 1.move eth1 first,and then eth1.5;
> 2.move eth1.5 first, and then eth1;
> As a network manager, I will be happy they both work, I don't care about the orders.
> But, 1) doesn't work, if eth1 was moved to other ns, all related vlans were unregisted.
> you need to create a new eth1.5 in net0.
> And, 2) is not safe, if someone forgets to move eth1, eth1.5 will not work, making
> things complex.
We have to fix this case, because it is a valid use case to have eth1.5 in net0
and eth1 in another ns.

>
> So what's the better order ?
> I prefer 1), when a vlan dev is setup, it has a namespace, and belongs to it,
> When somebody moves it, it should say 'hey boy, don't move me,I like here :0'
>
> Thanks,
> Weilong

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-23  7:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-22 12:43 [patch net-next] vlan: Don't allow vlan devices to change network namespaces Chen Weilong
2014-04-22 12:54 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-04-22 14:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-04-23  2:40   ` chenweilong
2014-04-23  7:23     ` Nicolas Dichtel [this message]
2014-04-24  0:59       ` chenweilong
2014-04-24  5:47         ` Michal Kubecek
2014-04-24  7:01           ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-04-24 11:32           ` chenweilong
2014-04-24 12:41             ` chenweilong
2014-04-24 13:21               ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-04-25 10:23                 ` chenweilong

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