From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton-vpEMnDpepFuMZCB2o+C8xQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH man-pages v1] fcntl.2: update manpage with verbiage about open file description locks
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:41:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53610B92.4000308@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140430081501.3aca5cba-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
Hi Jeff,
Thanks for your reply. Comments below.
On 04/30/2014 02:15 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:50:23 +0200
> "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
[...]
>> # The record locks described above are associated with the process
>> # (unlike the open file description locks described below). This
>> # has some unfortunate consequences:
>>
>> # * If a process holding a lock on a file closes any file descrip‐
>> # tor referring to the file, then all of the process's locks on
>> # the file are released, no matter which file descriptor they
>> # were obtained via. This is bad: it means that a process can
>
> "were obtained via" is a little awkward. How about "regardless of which
> file descriptor on which they were obtained".
Yeah, it is clumsy. I fixed, and also otherwise made the text more
precise/concise:
* If a process closes any file descriptor referring to a file,
then all of the process's locks on that file are released,
regardless of the file descriptor(s) on which the locks were
obtained.
[...]
>> ERRORS
>> [...]
>>
>> # EINVAL cmd is F_OFD_SETLK, F_OFD_SETLKW, or F_OFD_GETLK, and
>> # l_pid was not specified as zero.
>>
>
> The kernel will also return -EINVAL if it doesn't recognize the cmd
> value being passed in. It may be worth mentioning that as well as
> that's the best mechanism to tell whether the kernel actually supports
> OFD locks.
Good point. I added that error case under ERRORS, and added this text to
the top of the page:
Certain of the operations below are supported only since a par‐
ticular Linux kernel version. The preferred method of checking
whether the host kernel supports a aprticular operation is to
invoke fcntl() with the desired cmd value and then test whether
the call failed with EINVAL, indicating that the kernel does not
recognize this value.
==
And getting back to the missed piece:
>>>> The "EACCES or EAGAIN" thing comes from POSIX, because different
>>>> implementations of tradition record locks returned one of these errors.
>>>> So, portable applications using traditional locks must handle either
>>>> possibility. However, that argument doesn't apply for these new locks.
>>>> Surely, we just want to say "set errno to EAGAIN" for this case?
>
> Ahh good catch. I fixed that in the glibc doc but I missed it here.
> Yes, we should be clear that this OFD locks will get back EAGAIN in
> this situation. Can you fix it, or would you prefer I respin the
> patch?
No problem. I fixed it.
Thanks for checking over my revisions!
Cheers,
Michael
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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
"linux-man@vger.kernel.org" <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH man-pages v1] fcntl.2: update manpage with verbiage about open file description locks
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:41:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53610B92.4000308@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140430081501.3aca5cba@tlielax.poochiereds.net>
Hi Jeff,
Thanks for your reply. Comments below.
On 04/30/2014 02:15 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:50:23 +0200
> "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
>> # The record locks described above are associated with the process
>> # (unlike the open file description locks described below). This
>> # has some unfortunate consequences:
>>
>> # * If a process holding a lock on a file closes any file descrip‐
>> # tor referring to the file, then all of the process's locks on
>> # the file are released, no matter which file descriptor they
>> # were obtained via. This is bad: it means that a process can
>
> "were obtained via" is a little awkward. How about "regardless of which
> file descriptor on which they were obtained".
Yeah, it is clumsy. I fixed, and also otherwise made the text more
precise/concise:
* If a process closes any file descriptor referring to a file,
then all of the process's locks on that file are released,
regardless of the file descriptor(s) on which the locks were
obtained.
[...]
>> ERRORS
>> [...]
>>
>> # EINVAL cmd is F_OFD_SETLK, F_OFD_SETLKW, or F_OFD_GETLK, and
>> # l_pid was not specified as zero.
>>
>
> The kernel will also return -EINVAL if it doesn't recognize the cmd
> value being passed in. It may be worth mentioning that as well as
> that's the best mechanism to tell whether the kernel actually supports
> OFD locks.
Good point. I added that error case under ERRORS, and added this text to
the top of the page:
Certain of the operations below are supported only since a par‐
ticular Linux kernel version. The preferred method of checking
whether the host kernel supports a aprticular operation is to
invoke fcntl() with the desired cmd value and then test whether
the call failed with EINVAL, indicating that the kernel does not
recognize this value.
==
And getting back to the missed piece:
>>>> The "EACCES or EAGAIN" thing comes from POSIX, because different
>>>> implementations of tradition record locks returned one of these errors.
>>>> So, portable applications using traditional locks must handle either
>>>> possibility. However, that argument doesn't apply for these new locks.
>>>> Surely, we just want to say "set errno to EAGAIN" for this case?
>
> Ahh good catch. I fixed that in the glibc doc but I missed it here.
> Yes, we should be clear that this OFD locks will get back EAGAIN in
> this situation. Can you fix it, or would you prefer I respin the
> patch?
No problem. I fixed it.
Thanks for checking over my revisions!
Cheers,
Michael
--
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-29 18:51 [PATCH man-pages v1] fcntl.2: update manpage with verbiage about open file description locks Jeff Layton
2014-04-30 10:50 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-04-30 12:15 ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-30 12:15 ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-30 14:05 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <20140430081501.3aca5cba-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30 14:41 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2014-04-30 14:41 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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