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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, morten.rasmussen@arm.com,
	mingo@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	george.mccollister@gmail.com, ktkhai@parallels.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC/TEST] sched: make sync affine wakeups work
Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 06:56:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <536379D0.8070306@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1399016273.5233.94.camel@marge.simpson.net>

On 05/02/2014 03:37 AM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 02:30 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote: 
>> On 05/02/2014 02:13 AM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 00:42 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whether or not this is the right thing to do remains to be seen,
>>>> but it does allow us to verify whether or not the wake_affine
>>>> strategy of always doing affine wakeups and only disabling them
>>>> in a specific circumstance is sound, or needs rethinking...
>>>
>>> Yes, it needs rethinking.
>>>
>>> I know why you want to try this, yes, select_idle_sibling() is very much
>>> a two faced little bitch.
>>
>> My biggest problem with select_idle_sibling and wake_affine in
>> general is that it will override NUMA placement, even when
>> processes only wake each other up infrequently...
> 
> Hm, seems the thing to do would be to tell select_task_rq_fair() to keep
> it's mitts off of tasks that the numasched stuff has placed rather than
> decapitating select_idle_sibling() or some other drastic measure.

Thing is, if tasks are waking each other up frequently enough, we
probably DO want to place them near each other with select_idle_sibling.

We just cannot afford to have it as the default behaviour for casual
wakeup activity, because it will mess up other things.

-- 
All rights reversed

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-02 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-02  4:42 [PATCH RFC/TEST] sched: make sync affine wakeups work Rik van Riel
2014-05-02  5:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02  5:41   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02  5:58   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02  6:08     ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-02  6:36       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02  6:51         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02  6:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02  6:30   ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-02  7:37     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 10:56       ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2014-05-02 11:27         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-02 12:51           ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]           ` <5363B793.9010208@redhat.com>
2014-05-06 11:54             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 20:19               ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 20:39                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 23:46                   ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09  2:20                   ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09  5:27                     ` [PATCH] sched: wake up task on prev_cpu if not in SD_WAKE_AFFINE domain with cpu Rik van Riel
2014-05-09  6:04                       ` [PATCH] sched: clean up select_task_rq_fair conditionals and indentation Rik van Riel
2014-05-09  7:34                       ` [PATCH] sched: wake up task on prev_cpu if not in SD_WAKE_AFFINE domain with cpu Mike Galbraith
2014-05-09 14:22                         ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 15:24                           ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-09 15:24                             ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-09 17:55                               ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-09 18:16                                 ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-10  3:54                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-13 14:08                                     ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-14  4:08                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-14 15:40                                         ` [PATCH] sched: call select_idle_sibling when not affine_sd Rik van Riel
2014-05-14 15:45                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-19 13:08                                           ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2014-05-22 12:27                                           ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Call select_idle_sibling() " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2014-05-04 11:44     ` [PATCH RFC/TEST] sched: make sync affine wakeups work Preeti Murthy
2014-05-04 12:04       ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-05  4:38         ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-04 12:41       ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-05  4:50         ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-05  6:43           ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-05-05 11:28           ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 13:26           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 13:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 20:20           ` Rik van Riel
2014-05-06 20:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-07 12:17               ` Ingo Molnar
2014-05-06 11:56       ` Peter Zijlstra

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