From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at layers.openembedded.org; Fri, 02 May 2014 16:11:46 UTC Received: from starfish.geekisp.com (starfish.geekisp.com [216.168.135.166]) by mail.openembedded.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3ADB8606A2 for ; Fri, 2 May 2014 16:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28158 invoked by uid 1003); 2 May 2014 16:05:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.16.37.49?) (philip@opensdr.com@64.186.172.226) by mail.geekisp.com with (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 2 May 2014 16:05:06 -0000 Message-ID: <5363C230.5070508@balister.org> Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 09:05:04 -0700 From: Philip Balister User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Looijmans , "Burton, Ross" References: <1398963761.12731.1.camel@ted> <5363970A.8000601@topic.nl> <5363A741.6080508@topic.nl> In-Reply-To: <5363A741.6080508@topic.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Cc: openembedded-core Subject: Re: My thoughts on the future of OE? X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 16:11:51 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 05/02/2014 07:10 AM, Mike Looijmans wrote: > On 05/02/2014 03:47 PM, Burton, Ross wrote: >> On 2 May 2014 14:00, Mike Looijmans wrote: >>> Just about fifteen minutes ago I was asked the question of "Yay, I could >>> build a complete image for the board from scratch. Now how do I >>> create and >>> run a HelloWorld application on it?" >> >> Depending on context simply adding the "tools-sdk dev-pkgs" >> IMAGE_FEATURES is sufficient to build applications on the target, as >> long as it's for the hello world or iterative development approaches. >> Obviously a recipe would need to be written at some point but getting >> a toolchain in the image for development on the target is trivial. >> >> Ross >> > > That would be for "how do I create and run a HelloWorld application on > target without using my PC at all?". > > I guess I'm still a bit stuck in the era where the target had very > limited resources. For first time users, this is much easier, and for a > workshop, I've indeed supplied a dozen boards that had editors, > compilers and library headers pre-installed for immediate development. > > That will work for hello-world style apps, but for more complex projects > that draw in a few dozen complex libraries (gstreamer comes to mind) > this is not going to be very satisfactory. > > > What he was asking for was "How do I use the cross-compile environment > to develop my own application and run it on the target machine?" > > https://github.com/balister/meta-sdr/wiki/CrossCompile IS what I tell people for GNU Radio. The generic method should be OK for other cases. I need to collect techniques to move output onto the target. Philip