can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Robert P. J. Day]

  i've just been asked to design a linux device drivers course based
on the arduino-compatible intel galileo processor, so my first TODO
item is to lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit, for which this looks
like the obvious choice:

https://software.intel.com/en-us/iotdevkit

but that page says "upcoming". does it exist? my normal go-to source
up here, digikey.ca, shows zero in stock. where can i lay hands on
one (if possible)? thanks.

rday

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Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Alex J Lennon]

On 29/04/2014 17:34, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   i've just been asked to design a linux device drivers course based
> on the arduino-compatible intel galileo processor, so my first TODO
> item is to lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit, for which this looks
> like the obvious choice:
>
> https://software.intel.com/en-us/iotdevkit
>
> but that page says "upcoming". does it exist? my normal go-to source
> up here, digikey.ca, shows zero in stock. where can i lay hands on
> one (if possible)? thanks.

If it helps I had a Galileo Dev Kit delivered from RS (UK) a couple of
days ago.

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/7919611/

(I'm actually a bit confused about how the Galileo IoT collection of
meta-foo layers relates to the primary meta-foo
 sources, as I can't seem to find an independent meta-clanton ;ayer
which I guess I'd need. Early days yet, but am planning
 on working through this as soon as I get some time as I want to test a
build with meta-moo support on Galileo)

Cheers, Alex

> rday
>

Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Tue, 29 Apr 2014, Alex J Lennon wrote:

>
> On 29/04/2014 17:34, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >   i've just been asked to design a linux device drivers course based
> > on the arduino-compatible intel galileo processor, so my first TODO
> > item is to lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit, for which this looks
> > like the obvious choice:
> >
> > https://software.intel.com/en-us/iotdevkit
> >
> > but that page says "upcoming". does it exist? my normal go-to source
> > up here, digikey.ca, shows zero in stock. where can i lay hands on
> > one (if possible)? thanks.
>
> If it helps I had a Galileo Dev Kit delivered from RS (UK) a couple of
> days ago.
>
> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/7919611/

  ok, so that tells me it's at least available, so i should be able to
track it down online around here somewhere. good to know. now if
anyone in canada wants to weigh in and point me at the best source for
one of these things, that would be great.

  BTW, i notice that's the basic board, while this:

https://software.intel.com/en-us/iotdevkit

seems a bit more bundled. does anyone know if there is any significant
difference?

  as i mentioned earlier, a client wants a drivers course based on
this processor, so i'd also want the ability to possibly order a bunch
of them for the students as class time approaches (whenever that is).

rday

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Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Trevor Woerner]

On 29 April 2014 12:50, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@crashcourse.ca> wrote:
> now if
> anyone in canada wants to weigh in and point me at the best source for
> one of these things, that would be great.

Hi Robert,

I found this company in B.C. via amazon.ca which appears to have some in stock:
http://www.canakit.com/arduino-intel-galileo.html

Hope this helps.

Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Trevor Woerner]

PS. adafruit's website says they currently have them in stock:
http://www.adafruit.com/products/1637

Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Tue, 29 Apr 2014, Alex J Lennon wrote:

>
> On 29/04/2014 17:34, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >   i've just been asked to design a linux device drivers course based
> > on the arduino-compatible intel galileo processor, so my first TODO
> > item is to lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit, for which this looks
> > like the obvious choice:
> >
> > https://software.intel.com/en-us/iotdevkit
> >
> > but that page says "upcoming". does it exist? my normal go-to source
> > up here, digikey.ca, shows zero in stock. where can i lay hands on
> > one (if possible)? thanks.
>
> If it helps I had a Galileo Dev Kit delivered from RS (UK) a couple of
> days ago.
>
> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/7919611/
>
> (I'm actually a bit confused about how the Galileo IoT collection of
> meta-foo layers relates to the primary meta-foo
>  sources, as I can't seem to find an independent meta-clanton ;ayer
> which I guess I'd need. Early days yet, but am planning
>  on working through this as soon as I get some time as I want to test a
> build with meta-moo support on Galileo)

  i finally have time to play with this, and am interested in using
yocto to build a bootable system for the galileo. i see that there is
a version "1.0.0" of the firmware for this board -- is there a
convenient yocto recipe that involves just downloading the layer info
and not what looks like the current entire tarball that's stuffed with
all the sources?

  i suspect that, within a day or two, i'll figure that out once i
start digging around. if it's already documented somewhere, that would
be even better. :-)

rday

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Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Vaduva alexandru]

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Is this information helpful for you:
http://www.malinov.com/Home/sergey-s-blog/intelgalileo-buildinglinuximage
http://www.mouser.com/pdfdocs/Quark_BSPBuildGuide_329687_001.PDF


Alex


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On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:01 PM, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@crashcourse.ca> wrote:
 
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014, Alex J Lennon wrote:

>
> On 29/04/2014 17:34, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >   i've just been asked to design a linux device drivers course based
> > on the arduino-compatible intel galileo processor, so my first TODO
> > item is to lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit, for which this looks
> > like the obvious choice:
> >
> > https://software.intel.com/en-us/iotdevkit
> >
> > but that page says "upcoming". does it exist? my normal go-to source
> > up here, digikey.ca, shows zero in stock. where can i lay hands on
> > one (if possible)? thanks.
>
> If it helps I had a Galileo Dev Kit delivered from RS (UK) a couple of
> days ago.
>
> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/7919611/
>
> (I'm actually a bit confused about how the Galileo IoT collection of
> meta-foo layers relates to the primary meta-foo
>  sources, as I can't seem to find an independent meta-clanton ;ayer
> which I guess I'd need. Early days yet, but am planning
>  on working through this as soon as I get some time as I want to test a
> build with meta-moo support on Galileo)

  i finally have time to play with this, and am interested in using
yocto to build a bootable system for the galileo. i see that there is
a version "1.0.0" of the firmware for this board -- is there a
convenient yocto recipe that involves just downloading the layer info
and not what looks like the current entire tarball that's stuffed with
all the sources?

  i suspect that, within a day or two, i'll figure that out once i
start digging around. if it's already documented somewhere, that would
be even better. :-)

rday

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Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Tue, 13 May 2014, Vaduva alexandru wrote:

> Is this information helpful for you:
> http://www.malinov.com/Home/sergey-s-blog/intelgalileo-buildinglinuximage
> http://www.mouser.com/pdfdocs/Quark_BSPBuildGuide_329687_001.PDF

  i've seen those, both are based on using the 0.7.5 version of the
sources which i've been warned have "issues". i've already found the
newer 1.0.0 version:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=23197

so in the next day or so, i'll see if that's straightforward to build
and boot. just curious if anyone has already done that and can
confirm, "yup, it works."

rday

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Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Alex J Lennon]

On 13/05/2014 14:56, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2014, Alex J Lennon wrote:
>
>> On 29/04/2014 17:34, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>>   i've just been asked to design a linux device drivers course based
>>> on the arduino-compatible intel galileo processor, so my first TODO
>>> item is to lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit, for which this looks
>>> like the obvious choice:
>>>
>>> https://software.intel.com/en-us/iotdevkit
>>>
>>> but that page says "upcoming". does it exist? my normal go-to source
>>> up here, digikey.ca, shows zero in stock. where can i lay hands on
>>> one (if possible)? thanks.
>> If it helps I had a Galileo Dev Kit delivered from RS (UK) a couple of
>> days ago.
>>
>> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/7919611/
>>
>> (I'm actually a bit confused about how the Galileo IoT collection of
>> meta-foo layers relates to the primary meta-foo
>>  sources, as I can't seem to find an independent meta-clanton ;ayer
>> which I guess I'd need. Early days yet, but am planning
>>  on working through this as soon as I get some time as I want to test a
>> build with meta-moo support on Galileo)
>   i finally have time to play with this, and am interested in using
> yocto to build a bootable system for the galileo. i see that there is
> a version "1.0.0" of the firmware for this board -- is there a
> convenient yocto recipe that involves just downloading the layer info
> and not what looks like the current entire tarball that's stuffed with
> all the sources?
>
>   i suspect that, within a day or two, i'll figure that out once i
> start digging around. if it's already documented somewhere, that would
> be even better. :-)

Still a bit up in the air with this here Robert.

I've not been able to work out if there's a primary source for
meta-clanton independent
of the packaged iot layer, so I grabbed meta-intel-iot-devkit in its
entirety from
 git://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-intel-iot-devkit

I built one of my own custom mono images based on core-image-sato
thinking I could
put that on a uSD and it would "just boot" (oh the optimism... :)

No joy there so I took a quick look through that Quark BSP guide and it
seemed to be
talking about booting some odd kind of image format from a file on uSD.

I stepped back and had it build the iot-devkit-image which seemed to
need be to make a
change to an image dependency on python to python-core.

That's where I had to leave it as I ran out of time. I was planning on
hooking up serial to the
Tx/Rx pins to see if anything is happening there, getting something
building, then replacing
the meta-intel-iot-devkit references in BBLAYERS (aside from
meta-clanton) with the daisy
layers I'm using on a day to day basis.

Will let you know once I get a bit of life out of it!

Cheers, Alex
 

> esent those of the company.

Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Paul Eggleton]

On Tuesday 13 May 2014 15:33:33 Alex J Lennon wrote:
> On 13/05/2014 14:56, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Apr 2014, Alex J Lennon wrote:
> >> On 29/04/2014 17:34, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >>>   i've just been asked to design a linux device drivers course based
> >>> 
> >>> on the arduino-compatible intel galileo processor, so my first TODO
> >>> item is to lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit, for which this looks
> >>> like the obvious choice:
> >>> 
> >>> https://software.intel.com/en-us/iotdevkit
> >>> 
> >>> but that page says "upcoming". does it exist? my normal go-to source
> >>> up here, digikey.ca, shows zero in stock. where can i lay hands on
> >>> one (if possible)? thanks.
> >> 
> >> If it helps I had a Galileo Dev Kit delivered from RS (UK) a couple of
> >> days ago.
> >> 
> >> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/
> >> 7919611/
> >> 
> >> (I'm actually a bit confused about how the Galileo IoT collection of
> >> meta-foo layers relates to the primary meta-foo
> >> 
> >>  sources, as I can't seem to find an independent meta-clanton ;ayer
> >> 
> >> which I guess I'd need. Early days yet, but am planning
> >> 
> >>  on working through this as soon as I get some time as I want to test a
> >> 
> >> build with meta-moo support on Galileo)
> >> 
> >   i finally have time to play with this, and am interested in using
> > 
> > yocto to build a bootable system for the galileo. i see that there is
> > a version "1.0.0" of the firmware for this board -- is there a
> > convenient yocto recipe that involves just downloading the layer info
> > and not what looks like the current entire tarball that's stuffed with
> > all the sources?
> > 
> >   i suspect that, within a day or two, i'll figure that out once i
> > 
> > start digging around. if it's already documented somewhere, that would
> > be even better. :-)
> 
> Still a bit up in the air with this here Robert.
> 
> I've not been able to work out if there's a primary source for
> meta-clanton independent
> of the packaged iot layer, so I grabbed meta-intel-iot-devkit in its
> entirety from
>  git://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-intel-iot-devkit
> 
> I built one of my own custom mono images based on core-image-sato
> thinking I could
> put that on a uSD and it would "just boot" (oh the optimism... :)
> 
> No joy there so I took a quick look through that Quark BSP guide and it
> seemed to be
> talking about booting some odd kind of image format from a file on uSD.
> 
> I stepped back and had it build the iot-devkit-image which seemed to
> need be to make a
> change to an image dependency on python to python-core.
> 
> That's where I had to leave it as I ran out of time. I was planning on
> hooking up serial to the
> Tx/Rx pins to see if anything is happening there, getting something
> building, then replacing
> the meta-intel-iot-devkit references in BBLAYERS (aside from
> meta-clanton) with the daisy
> layers I'm using on a day to day basis.

So apologies for not replying earlier - I've not been directly involved in the
BSP for Galileo, but I have been providing support for the team doing the IoT
DevKit work. You should be able to build images for Galileo using what's in
meta-intel-iot-devkit directly; you could also use the layers within it
separately using your own separate OE-Core / Poky tree, but it's not really
designed to be used in that way. If you really want to do it separately you
should take care to use all three layers (meta-clanton-bsp, meta-galileo, and
meta-iot-devkit) and set your DISTRO = "iot-devkit".

FYI as of yesterday there is also now a "devkit-daisy" branch which is
updated on top of the daisy branch, but it is a work-in-progress at the
moment so don't be too surprised if something breaks (although it did work
well for me here).

To create a partitioned image file suitable for dd'ing to an SD card, the
easiest way is to use the wic tool - for example, to build a final image 
from an image called "iot-devkit-image" that you just built using the build
system:

  wic create iot-devkit -e iot-devkit-image

("iot-devkit" here points to scripts/lib/image/canned-wks/iot-devkit.wks which
tells wic how to format the image).

I'd recommend you then use the ddimage helper script that we have since it
provides a measure of assurance that you've got the right device before
overwriting its contents, for example:

  sudo ../scripts/contrib/ddimage /var/tmp/wic/build/iot-devkit-NNNNN-mmcblkp0.direct /dev/mmcblk0

Cheers,
Paul

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Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Alex J Lennon]

On 16/05/2014 11:11, Paul Eggleton wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 May 2014 15:33:33 Alex J Lennon wrote:
>> On 13/05/2014 14:56, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2014, Alex J Lennon wrote:
>>>> On 29/04/2014 17:34, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>>>>   i've just been asked to design a linux device drivers course based
>>>>>
>>>>> on the arduino-compatible intel galileo processor, so my first TODO
>>>>> item is to lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit, for which this looks
>>>>> like the obvious choice:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://software.intel.com/en-us/iotdevkit
>>>>>
>>>>> but that page says "upcoming". does it exist? my normal go-to source
>>>>> up here, digikey.ca, shows zero in stock. where can i lay hands on
>>>>> one (if possible)? thanks.
>>>> If it helps I had a Galileo Dev Kit delivered from RS (UK) a couple of
>>>> days ago.
>>>>
>>>> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/
>>>> 7919611/
>>>>
>>>> (I'm actually a bit confused about how the Galileo IoT collection of
>>>> meta-foo layers relates to the primary meta-foo
>>>>
>>>>  sources, as I can't seem to find an independent meta-clanton ;ayer
>>>>
>>>> which I guess I'd need. Early days yet, but am planning
>>>>
>>>>  on working through this as soon as I get some time as I want to test a
>>>>
>>>> build with meta-moo support on Galileo)
>>>>
>>>   i finally have time to play with this, and am interested in using
>>>
>>> yocto to build a bootable system for the galileo. i see that there is
>>> a version "1.0.0" of the firmware for this board -- is there a
>>> convenient yocto recipe that involves just downloading the layer info
>>> and not what looks like the current entire tarball that's stuffed with
>>> all the sources?
>>>
>>>   i suspect that, within a day or two, i'll figure that out once i
>>>
>>> start digging around. if it's already documented somewhere, that would
>>> be even better. :-)
>> Still a bit up in the air with this here Robert.
>>
>> I've not been able to work out if there's a primary source for
>> meta-clanton independent
>> of the packaged iot layer, so I grabbed meta-intel-iot-devkit in its
>> entirety from
>>  git://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-intel-iot-devkit
>>
>> I built one of my own custom mono images based on core-image-sato
>> thinking I could
>> put that on a uSD and it would "just boot" (oh the optimism... :)
>>
>> No joy there so I took a quick look through that Quark BSP guide and it
>> seemed to be
>> talking about booting some odd kind of image format from a file on uSD.
>>
>> I stepped back and had it build the iot-devkit-image which seemed to
>> need be to make a
>> change to an image dependency on python to python-core.
>>
>> That's where I had to leave it as I ran out of time. I was planning on
>> hooking up serial to the
>> Tx/Rx pins to see if anything is happening there, getting something
>> building, then replacing
>> the meta-intel-iot-devkit references in BBLAYERS (aside from
>> meta-clanton) with the daisy
>> layers I'm using on a day to day basis.
> So apologies for not replying earlier - I've not been directly involved in the
> BSP for Galileo, but I have been providing support for the team doing the IoT
> DevKit work. You should be able to build images for Galileo using what's in
> meta-intel-iot-devkit directly; you could also use the layers within it
> separately using your own separate OE-Core / Poky tree, but it's not really
> designed to be used in that way. If you really want to do it separately you
> should take care to use all three layers (meta-clanton-bsp, meta-galileo, and
> meta-iot-devkit) and set your DISTRO = "iot-devkit".
>
> FYI as of yesterday there is also now a "devkit-daisy" branch which is
> updated on top of the daisy branch, but it is a work-in-progress at the
> moment so don't be too surprised if something breaks (although it did work
> well for me here).
>
> To create a partitioned image file suitable for dd'ing to an SD card, the
> easiest way is to use the wic tool - for example, to build a final image 
> from an image called "iot-devkit-image" that you just built using the build
> system:
>
>   wic create iot-devkit -e iot-devkit-image
>
> ("iot-devkit" here points to scripts/lib/image/canned-wks/iot-devkit.wks which
> tells wic how to format the image).
>
> I'd recommend you then use the ddimage helper script that we have since it
> provides a measure of assurance that you've got the right device before
> overwriting its contents, for example:
>
>   sudo ../scripts/contrib/ddimage /var/tmp/wic/build/iot-devkit-NNNNN-mmcblkp0.direct /dev/mmcblk0
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
>

Thanks Paul. Very useful, particularly the image creation incantations.
I'll give this a go as soon as I can make some time.

I really want to be building the same distro for multiple targets here
(i.MX6, RPi, Galileo, qemu), but Poky is breaking for me.

I'm using my day to day daisy layers with the meta-intel-iot-devkit ones
I believe I need as follows: http://pastebin.com/7rFQpdiX

The latest build failure was a missing grub which I suppose is to be
expected as I'm not using the correct/recommended distro (?)

Can you comment on what the main difference is in intention/what's
supplied between the poky reference distro and the iot-devkit distro?

Cheers, Alex

Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Paul Eggleton]

On Friday 16 May 2014 11:29:34 Alex J Lennon wrote:
> On 16/05/2014 11:11, Paul Eggleton wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 May 2014 15:33:33 Alex J Lennon wrote:
> >> On 13/05/2014 14:56, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2014, Alex J Lennon wrote:
> >>>> On 29/04/2014 17:34, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >>>>>   i've just been asked to design a linux device drivers course based
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> on the arduino-compatible intel galileo processor, so my first TODO
> >>>>> item is to lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit, for which this looks
> >>>>> like the obvious choice:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> https://software.intel.com/en-us/iotdevkit
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> but that page says "upcoming". does it exist? my normal go-to source
> >>>>> up here, digikey.ca, shows zero in stock. where can i lay hands on
> >>>>> one (if possible)? thanks.
> >>>> 
> >>>> If it helps I had a Galileo Dev Kit delivered from RS (UK) a couple of
> >>>> days ago.
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kit
> >>>> s/
> >>>> 7919611/
> >>>> 
> >>>> (I'm actually a bit confused about how the Galileo IoT collection of
> >>>> meta-foo layers relates to the primary meta-foo
> >>>> 
> >>>>  sources, as I can't seem to find an independent meta-clanton ;ayer
> >>>> 
> >>>> which I guess I'd need. Early days yet, but am planning
> >>>> 
> >>>>  on working through this as soon as I get some time as I want to test a
> >>>> 
> >>>> build with meta-moo support on Galileo)
> >>>> 
> >>>   i finally have time to play with this, and am interested in using
> >>> 
> >>> yocto to build a bootable system for the galileo. i see that there is
> >>> a version "1.0.0" of the firmware for this board -- is there a
> >>> convenient yocto recipe that involves just downloading the layer info
> >>> and not what looks like the current entire tarball that's stuffed with
> >>> all the sources?
> >>> 
> >>>   i suspect that, within a day or two, i'll figure that out once i
> >>> 
> >>> start digging around. if it's already documented somewhere, that would
> >>> be even better. :-)
> >> 
> >> Still a bit up in the air with this here Robert.
> >> 
> >> I've not been able to work out if there's a primary source for
> >> meta-clanton independent
> >> of the packaged iot layer, so I grabbed meta-intel-iot-devkit in its
> >> entirety from
> >> 
> >>  git://git.yoctoproject.org/meta-intel-iot-devkit
> >> 
> >> I built one of my own custom mono images based on core-image-sato
> >> thinking I could
> >> put that on a uSD and it would "just boot" (oh the optimism... :)
> >> 
> >> No joy there so I took a quick look through that Quark BSP guide and it
> >> seemed to be
> >> talking about booting some odd kind of image format from a file on uSD.
> >> 
> >> I stepped back and had it build the iot-devkit-image which seemed to
> >> need be to make a
> >> change to an image dependency on python to python-core.
> >> 
> >> That's where I had to leave it as I ran out of time. I was planning on
> >> hooking up serial to the
> >> Tx/Rx pins to see if anything is happening there, getting something
> >> building, then replacing
> >> the meta-intel-iot-devkit references in BBLAYERS (aside from
> >> meta-clanton) with the daisy
> >> layers I'm using on a day to day basis.
> > 
> > So apologies for not replying earlier - I've not been directly involved in
> > the BSP for Galileo, but I have been providing support for the team doing
> > the IoT DevKit work. You should be able to build images for Galileo using
> > what's in meta-intel-iot-devkit directly; you could also use the layers
> > within it separately using your own separate OE-Core / Poky tree, but
> > it's not really designed to be used in that way. If you really want to do
> > it separately you should take care to use all three layers
> > (meta-clanton-bsp, meta-galileo, and meta-iot-devkit) and set your DISTRO
> > = "iot-devkit".
> > 
> > FYI as of yesterday there is also now a "devkit-daisy" branch which is
> > updated on top of the daisy branch, but it is a work-in-progress at the
> > moment so don't be too surprised if something breaks (although it did work
> > well for me here).
> > 
> > To create a partitioned image file suitable for dd'ing to an SD card, the
> > easiest way is to use the wic tool - for example, to build a final image
> > from an image called "iot-devkit-image" that you just built using the
> > build
> > 
> > system:
> >   wic create iot-devkit -e iot-devkit-image
> > 
> > ("iot-devkit" here points to scripts/lib/image/canned-wks/iot-devkit.wks
> > which tells wic how to format the image).
> > 
> > I'd recommend you then use the ddimage helper script that we have since it
> > provides a measure of assurance that you've got the right device before
> > 
> > overwriting its contents, for example:
> >   sudo ../scripts/contrib/ddimage
> >   /var/tmp/wic/build/iot-devkit-NNNNN-mmcblkp0.direct /dev/mmcblk0> 
> > Cheers,
> > Paul
> 
> Thanks Paul. Very useful, particularly the image creation incantations.
> I'll give this a go as soon as I can make some time.
> 
> I really want to be building the same distro for multiple targets here
> (i.MX6, RPi, Galileo, qemu), but Poky is breaking for me.
> 
> I'm using my day to day daisy layers with the meta-intel-iot-devkit ones
> I believe I need as follows: http://pastebin.com/7rFQpdiX

I think you should probably have meta-iot-devkit as well even if you don't use 
DISTRO = "iot-devkit".

> The latest build failure was a missing grub which I suppose is to be
> expected as I'm not using the correct/recommended distro (?)

When you say "missing grub" can you be more specific about the error?

> Can you comment on what the main difference is in intention/what's
> supplied between the poky reference distro and the iot-devkit distro?

Well, looking at the distro config itself there's actually not that much in it 
of real substance, but there are some bbappends in the meta-iot-devkit layer, 
hence why I'd suggest including it.

Cheers,
Paul

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Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Alex J Lennon]

> I think you should probably have meta-iot-devkit as well even if you don't use 
> DISTRO = "iot-devkit".

I added meta-iot-devkit in to bblayers and when I bitbake
iot-devkit-image (MACHINE=clanton, DISTRO=iot-devkit) I get orphaned
bbappends.

ERROR: No recipes available for:
 
/data_drive/imx6/rootfs_builder/sources/meta-intel-iot-devkit/meta-iot-devkit/recipes-extended/ethtool/ethtool_3.10.bbappend
 
/data_drive/imx6/rootfs_builder/sources/meta-intel-iot-devkit/meta-iot-devkit/recipes-core/busybox/busybox_1.21.1.bbappend
ERROR: Command execution failed: Exited with 1

>> The latest build failure was a missing grub which I suppose is to be
>> expected as I'm not using the correct/recommended distro (?)
> When you say "missing grub" can you be more specific about the error?

When I take out meta-iot-devkit and build core-image-minimal for
MACHINE=clanton, DISTRO=iot-devkit I get

ERROR: Unable to install packages. Command
'/data_drive/imx6/rootfs_builder/buildgalileoiot2/tmp/sysroots/i686-linux/usr/bin/smart
--data-dir=/data_drive/imx6/rootfs_builder/buildgalileoiot2/tmp/work/clanton-poky-linux/core-image-minimal-initramfs/1.0-r0/rootfs/var/lib/smart
install -y busybox@i586 initramfs-live-install-efi@i586
run-postinsts@all initramfs-live-install@i586 udev@i586
initramfs-live-boot@clanton base-passwd@i586' returned 1:
Loading cache...
Updating cache...               ########################################
[100%]

Computing transaction...error: Can't install
initramfs-live-install-1.0-r9@i586: no package provides grub

There seem to be some grub recipes in meta-clanton-bsp though so... (?)
Maybe if I put meta-intel-iot-devkit back in and sort out the
bbappends... (?)

Cheers,

Alex

Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Paul Eggleton]

On Friday 16 May 2014 12:17:33 Alex J Lennon wrote:
> > I think you should probably have meta-iot-devkit as well even if you don't
> > use DISTRO = "iot-devkit".
> 
> I added meta-iot-devkit in to bblayers and when I bitbake
> iot-devkit-image (MACHINE=clanton, DISTRO=iot-devkit) I get orphaned
> bbappends.
> 
> ERROR: No recipes available for:
> 
> /data_drive/imx6/rootfs_builder/sources/meta-intel-iot-devkit/meta-iot-devki
> t/recipes-extended/ethtool/ethtool_3.10.bbappend
> 
> /data_drive/imx6/rootfs_builder/sources/meta-intel-iot-devkit/meta-iot-devki
> t/recipes-core/busybox/busybox_1.21.1.bbappend ERROR: Command execution
> failed: Exited with 1

Are you trying to use these layers with 1.6 / master? Until the devkit-daisy 
branch was pushed, the devkit was based on 1.5 (dora).

> >> The latest build failure was a missing grub which I suppose is to be
> >> expected as I'm not using the correct/recommended distro (?)
> > 
> > When you say "missing grub" can you be more specific about the error?
> 
> When I take out meta-iot-devkit and build core-image-minimal for
> MACHINE=clanton, DISTRO=iot-devkit I get
> 
> ERROR: Unable to install packages. Command
> '/data_drive/imx6/rootfs_builder/buildgalileoiot2/tmp/sysroots/i686-linux/us
> r/bin/smart
> --data-dir=/data_drive/imx6/rootfs_builder/buildgalileoiot2/tmp/work/clanto
> n-poky-linux/core-image-minimal-initramfs/1.0-r0/rootfs/var/lib/smart
> install -y busybox@i586 initramfs-live-install-efi@i586
> run-postinsts@all initramfs-live-install@i586 udev@i586
> initramfs-live-boot@clanton base-passwd@i586' returned 1:
> Loading cache...
> Updating cache...               ########################################
> [100%]
> 
> Computing transaction...error: Can't install
> initramfs-live-install-1.0-r9@i586: no package provides grub
> 
> There seem to be some grub recipes in meta-clanton-bsp though so... (?)
> Maybe if I put meta-intel-iot-devkit back in and sort out the
> bbappends... (?)

If you get this error, it means there is a grub recipe but no package called 
"grub" was produced. I don't recieve this error here, but FWIW I don't have a 
grub ipk package in tmp/deploy/ipk either, so this is expected and it 
shouldn't be looking for the package.

Cheers,
Paul

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Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Alex J Lennon]

On 16/05/2014 12:32, Paul Eggleton wrote:
> On Friday 16 May 2014 12:17:33 Alex J Lennon wrote:
>>> I think you should probably have meta-iot-devkit as well even if you don't
>>> use DISTRO = "iot-devkit".
>> I added meta-iot-devkit in to bblayers and when I bitbake
>> iot-devkit-image (MACHINE=clanton, DISTRO=iot-devkit) I get orphaned
>> bbappends.
>>
>> ERROR: No recipes available for:
>>
>> /data_drive/imx6/rootfs_builder/sources/meta-intel-iot-devkit/meta-iot-devki
>> t/recipes-extended/ethtool/ethtool_3.10.bbappend
>>
>> /data_drive/imx6/rootfs_builder/sources/meta-intel-iot-devkit/meta-iot-devki
>> t/recipes-core/busybox/busybox_1.21.1.bbappend ERROR: Command execution
>> failed: Exited with 1
> Are you trying to use these layers with 1.6 / master? Until the devkit-daisy 
> branch was pushed, the devkit was based on 1.5 (dora).

Yes I'm on daisy nowadays - http://pastebin.com/4C8DWHJw


>>>> The latest build failure was a missing grub which I suppose is to be
>>>> expected as I'm not using the correct/recommended distro (?)
>>> When you say "missing grub" can you be more specific about the error?
>> When I take out meta-iot-devkit and build core-image-minimal for
>> MACHINE=clanton, DISTRO=iot-devkit I get
>>
>> ERROR: Unable to install packages. Command
>> '/data_drive/imx6/rootfs_builder/buildgalileoiot2/tmp/sysroots/i686-linux/us
>> r/bin/smart
>> --data-dir=/data_drive/imx6/rootfs_builder/buildgalileoiot2/tmp/work/clanto
>> n-poky-linux/core-image-minimal-initramfs/1.0-r0/rootfs/var/lib/smart
>> install -y busybox@i586 initramfs-live-install-efi@i586
>> run-postinsts@all initramfs-live-install@i586 udev@i586
>> initramfs-live-boot@clanton base-passwd@i586' returned 1:
>> Loading cache...
>> Updating cache...               ########################################
>> [100%]
>>
>> Computing transaction...error: Can't install
>> initramfs-live-install-1.0-r9@i586: no package provides grub
>>
>> There seem to be some grub recipes in meta-clanton-bsp though so... (?)
>> Maybe if I put meta-intel-iot-devkit back in and sort out the
>> bbappends... (?)
> If you get this error, it means there is a grub recipe but no package called 
> "grub" was produced. I don't recieve this error here, but FWIW I don't have a 
> grub ipk package in tmp/deploy/ipk either, so this is expected and it 
> shouldn't be looking for the package.

I've just checked out the new devkit-daisy branch and that's built me
core-image-minimal successfully with MACHINE=clanton, DISTRO=iot-devkit

Many thanks!

I'll kick off another build of my mono image for poky and see what
happens...

Cheers,

Alex

Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Fri, 16 May 2014, Paul Eggleton wrote:

... snip ...

> So apologies for not replying earlier - I've not been directly involved in the
> BSP for Galileo, but I have been providing support for the team doing the IoT
> DevKit work. You should be able to build images for Galileo using what's in
> meta-intel-iot-devkit directly; you could also use the layers within it
> separately using your own separate OE-Core / Poky tree, but it's not really
> designed to be used in that way. If you really want to do it separately you
> should take care to use all three layers (meta-clanton-bsp, meta-galileo, and
> meta-iot-devkit) and set your DISTRO = "iot-devkit".

  should any of these layers be added to:

http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layers/

for findability?

rday

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Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Paul Eggleton]

On Friday 16 May 2014 07:37:01 Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2014, Paul Eggleton wrote:
> 
> ... snip ...
> 
> > So apologies for not replying earlier - I've not been directly involved in
> > the BSP for Galileo, but I have been providing support for the team doing
> > the IoT DevKit work. You should be able to build images for Galileo using
> > what's in meta-intel-iot-devkit directly; you could also use the layers
> > within it separately using your own separate OE-Core / Poky tree, but
> > it's not really designed to be used in that way. If you really want to do
> > it separately you should take care to use all three layers
> > (meta-clanton-bsp, meta-galileo, and meta-iot-devkit) and set your DISTRO
> > = "iot-devkit".
> 
>   should any of these layers be added to:
> 
> http://layers.openembedded.org/layerindex/branch/master/layers/
> 
> for findability?

Whilst I would usually say yes, in this case I'm not sure that would be ideal. 
The layer index is designed to index individual layers, but the layers within 
this repository aren't meant to be used separately; people who do try to do 
that will have to know what they are doing. This isn't the canonical source of 
the BSP either - the official BSP is what gets published as a tarball and its 
usage is documented in the Quark BSP build guide.

Cheers,
Paul

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Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Fri, 16 May 2014, Paul Eggleton wrote:

> So apologies for not replying earlier - I've not been directly
> involved in the BSP for Galileo, but I have been providing support
> for the team doing the IoT DevKit work. You should be able to build
> images for Galileo using what's in meta-intel-iot-devkit directly;
> you could also use the layers within it separately using your own
> separate OE-Core / Poky tree, but it's not really designed to be
> used in that way. If you really want to do it separately you should
> take care to use all three layers (meta-clanton-bsp, meta-galileo,
> and meta-iot-devkit) and set your DISTRO = "iot-devkit".

  possibly a silly question, but what are the dependencies between
those three layers? i'm used to seeing layer dependencies listed in a
layer's "layer.conf" file. if i look at the meta-iot-devkit layer, its
layer.conf file says nothing about dependencies, but one of its kernel
recipes, "linux-yocto-clanton_3.8.bbappend", is clearly a reference to
a kernel recipe in the meta-clanton-bsp layer.

  i would thus have expected to see that dependency listed in the
layer.conf file. has something about listing layer dependencies
changed while i wasn't looking?

rday

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Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Paul Eggleton]

On Friday 16 May 2014 08:51:35 Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2014, Paul Eggleton wrote:
> > So apologies for not replying earlier - I've not been directly
> > involved in the BSP for Galileo, but I have been providing support
> > for the team doing the IoT DevKit work. You should be able to build
> > images for Galileo using what's in meta-intel-iot-devkit directly;
> > you could also use the layers within it separately using your own
> > separate OE-Core / Poky tree, but it's not really designed to be
> > used in that way. If you really want to do it separately you should
> > take care to use all three layers (meta-clanton-bsp, meta-galileo,
> > and meta-iot-devkit) and set your DISTRO = "iot-devkit".
> 
>   possibly a silly question, but what are the dependencies between
> those three layers? i'm used to seeing layer dependencies listed in a
> layer's "layer.conf" file. if i look at the meta-iot-devkit layer, its
> layer.conf file says nothing about dependencies, but one of its kernel
> recipes, "linux-yocto-clanton_3.8.bbappend", is clearly a reference to
> a kernel recipe in the meta-clanton-bsp layer.
> 
>   i would thus have expected to see that dependency listed in the
> layer.conf file. has something about listing layer dependencies
> changed while i wasn't looking?

No, nothing has changed. The separation here is probably not as clearly defined 
as it ought to be. I guess what I'd say is, you shouldn't look at this as a 
fully worked example of how to structure things; it was put together out of 
various pieces and intended to be used as a whole rather than separate 
components.

Cheers,
Paul

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Paul Eggleton
Intel Open Source Technology Centre

Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Fri, 16 May 2014, Paul Eggleton wrote:

> On Friday 16 May 2014 08:51:35 Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 May 2014, Paul Eggleton wrote:
> > > So apologies for not replying earlier - I've not been directly
> > > involved in the BSP for Galileo, but I have been providing support
> > > for the team doing the IoT DevKit work. You should be able to build
> > > images for Galileo using what's in meta-intel-iot-devkit directly;
> > > you could also use the layers within it separately using your own
> > > separate OE-Core / Poky tree, but it's not really designed to be
> > > used in that way. If you really want to do it separately you should
> > > take care to use all three layers (meta-clanton-bsp, meta-galileo,
> > > and meta-iot-devkit) and set your DISTRO = "iot-devkit".
> >
> >   possibly a silly question, but what are the dependencies between
> > those three layers? i'm used to seeing layer dependencies listed in a
> > layer's "layer.conf" file. if i look at the meta-iot-devkit layer, its
> > layer.conf file says nothing about dependencies, but one of its kernel
> > recipes, "linux-yocto-clanton_3.8.bbappend", is clearly a reference to
> > a kernel recipe in the meta-clanton-bsp layer.
> >
> >   i would thus have expected to see that dependency listed in the
> > layer.conf file. has something about listing layer dependencies
> > changed while i wasn't looking?
>
> No, nothing has changed. The separation here is probably not as
> clearly defined as it ought to be. I guess what I'd say is, you
> shouldn't look at this as a fully worked example of how to structure
> things; it was put together out of various pieces and intended to be
> used as a whole rather than separate components.

  fair enough ... i should be able to test this by end of day.

rday

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Re: can one lay hands on a galileo-based dev kit?

[Alex J Lennon]

On 13/05/2014 14:56, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> i finally have time to play with this, and am interested in using
> yocto to build a bootable system for the galileo. i see that there is
> a version "1.0.0" of the firmware for this board -- is there a
> convenient yocto recipe that involves just downloading the layer info
> and not what looks like the current entire tarball that's stuffed with
> all the sources? i suspect that, within a day or two, i'll figure that
> out once i start digging around. if it's already documented somewhere,
> that would be even better. :-) rday 

I've made some progress with this Robert, although I confess it was more
challenging than I had expected.

I suspect I am using components that are out of sync, maybe the
installed grub loader vs the images I'm trying to build and boot, or
perhaps because I'm trying to target a poky distribution instead of the
iot one. Maybe I'm just missing something blindingly obvious and making
a rod for my back.

The Galileo didn't seem to want to play nicely from the start. I wasn't
able to do the simple Arduino IDE firmware update the docs suggest - no
response to query - and couldn't get any life out of UART0 on the TTL
pins. The USB client was enumerating as a serial gadget once I copied
across the 'magic' usbser.sys driver file on my Windows host though, so
there was some proof of life at least.

(I was a bit concerned for a while I might have bricked the thing when I
spotted the caveats about not powering USB without +V from the PSU.
Seems a bit like an accident waiting to happen, particularly if this is
being marketed as an Arduino replacement. Big red sticker on the box
needed for us software engineers at the very least).

I finally realised that I needed to wire up a 3.5mm jack cable to see
the Linux console (at RS232-C line levels no less....) A shame that
wasn't included in the box, but I guess if you just want an
Arduino-a-like (and the USB comms. actually works...) then maybe you
don't need to see what's really going on.

I worked through the Quark_BSPBuildGuide as it says that "you must
update the firmware the first time you use the board", which has been
superceded, so I wondered if maybe I was running some old code in the
supplied board that needed updating.

The capsule files from the
LITTLE_LINUX_IMAGE_FirmwareUpdate_Intel_Galileo download installed OK
and that got me to a shell with Poky 1.4

"Poky 9.0.2 (Yocto Project 1.4 Reference Distro) 1.4.2 clanton /dev/ttyS1"

It was picking up an IP address, I could SSH in and all was good.

...

So then I had a look at what was involved in booting from the uSD
instead of the image that I presume the capsule installed to the SPI flash.

As I mentioned earlier I had grabbed meta-intel-iot-devkit. Perhaps that
was my mistake. I had built up an image with the packaged layers to
start, and I then tried to copy across my new build so I could boot it.

I was hoping for something a little like what is offered out of the
meta-fsl-arm builds, i.e. a FAT boot partition and then an ext3 rootfs
partition, but this layer seems to be using a single FAT partition with
an initrd and an ext3 file mounted as root.

First I tried dd'ing the .hddimg file I had generated but that seemed to
result in an EFI boot configuration that the Galileo bootloader wasn't
picking up.

So I reverted to copying across my new bzImage and
iot-devkit-image-clanton.ext3 as per the BSP Build docs and that at
least did boot the kernel.

It then failed to mount the rootfs as it couldn't find /media/realroot
in the .ext3 file. Maybe this is because I'm targeting poky not the iot
distro?

With that added to my image I was able to boot to a Poky 1.5.1 shell,
and I had mono 3.4.0 up and running on poky which was what I wanted to
achieve.

That said I seem to have lost the ethernet interface along the way so
will need to see where that has gone.
...

Lastly I've tried to eliminate use of the bblayers from
meta-intel-iot-devkit in favour of my day to day Poky 1.6 daisy layers.

I needed to copy across 
./meta-intel-iot-devkit/meta/conf/machine/include/ia32-base.inc to
poky/meta, remove dependencies on meta-iot-devkit and meta-hob from
bblayers, and remove a couple of orphaned .bbappends in meta-galileo
(iot-devkit-spi-image.bbappend, iot-devkit-image.bbappend) but it seems
to be building now at least.

I'm waiting to see how far that gets.

...

Apologies for the length of this, but perhaps some of it is useful. If
there's an easier way to build a poky daisy distro for Galileo I'd love
to hear it :)

Cheers, Alex