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From: elder@linaro.org (Alex Elder)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 1/5] devicetree: bindings: document Broadcom CPU enable method
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 22:30:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53855867.7050800@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140527114958.GC18476@e102568-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 05/27/2014 06:49 AM, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 06:43:46PM +0100, Alex Elder wrote:
>> Broadcom mobile SoCs use a ROM-implemented holding pen for
>> controlled boot of secondary cores.  A special register is
>> used to communicate to the ROM that a secondary core should
>> start executing kernel code.  This enable method is currently
>> used for members of the bcm281xx and bcm21664 SoC families.
>>
>> The use of an enable method also allows the SMP operation vector to
>> be assigned as a result of device tree content for these SoCs.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>
> 
> This is getting out of control, it is absolutely ghastly. I wonder how
> I can manage to keep cpus.txt updated if anyone with a boot method
> du jour adds into cpus.txt, and honestly in this specific case it is even
> hard to understand why.

OK, in this message I'll focus on the particulars of this
proposed binding.

> Can't it be done with bindings for the relative register address space
> (regmap ?) and platform code just calls the registers driver to set-up the
> jump address ? It is platform specific code anyway there is no way you
> can make this generic.

I want to clarify what you're after here.

My aim is to add SMP support for a class of Broadcom SMP
machines.  To do so, I'm told I need to use the technique
of assigning the SMP operations vector as a result of
identifying an enable method in the DT.

For 32-bit ARM, there are no generic "enable-method" values.
(I did attempt to create one for "spin-table" but that was
rejected by Russell King.)  For the machines I'm trying to
enable, secondary CPUS start out spinning in a ROM-based
holding pen, and there is no need for a kernel-based one.

However, like a spin-table/holding pen enable method, a
memory location is required for coordination between the
boot CPU running kernel code and secondary CPUs running ROM
code.  My proposal specifies it using a special numeric
property value named "secondary-boot-reg" in the "cpus"
node in the DT.

And as I understand it, the issue you have relates to how
this memory location is specified.

You suggest regmap.  I'm using a single 32-bit register,
only at very early boot time, and thereafter access to
it is meaningless.  It seems like overkill if it's only
used for this purpose.  I could hide the register values
in the code, but with the exception of that, the code I'm
using is generic (in the context of this class of Broadcom
machine).  I could specify the register differently somehow,
in a different node, or with a different property.

The bottom line here is I'm not sure whether I understand
what you're suggesting, or perhaps why what you suggest is
preferable.  I'm very open to suggestions, I just need it
laid out a bit more detail in order to respond directly.

Thanks.

					-Alex

> I really do not see the point in cluttering cpus.txt with this stuff, it
> is a platform specific hack, and do not belong in generic bindings in my
> opinion.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lorenzo
> 
>> ---
>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt | 12 ++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
>> index 333f4ae..c6a2411 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
>> @@ -185,6 +185,7 @@ nodes to be present and contain the properties described below.
>>  			    "qcom,gcc-msm8660"
>>  			    "qcom,kpss-acc-v1"
>>  			    "qcom,kpss-acc-v2"
>> +			    "brcm,bcm11351-cpu-method"
>>  
>>  	- cpu-release-addr
>>  		Usage: required for systems that have an "enable-method"
>> @@ -209,6 +210,17 @@ nodes to be present and contain the properties described below.
>>  		Value type: <phandle>
>>  		Definition: Specifies the ACC[2] node associated with this CPU.
>>  
>> +	- secondary-boot-reg
>> +		Usage:
>> +			Required for systems that have an "enable-method"
>> +			property value of "brcm,bcm11351-cpu-method".
>> +		Value type: <u32>
>> +		Definition:
>> +			Specifies the physical address of the register used to
>> +			request the ROM holding pen code release a secondary
>> +			CPU.  The value written to the register is formed by
>> +			encoding the target CPU id into the low bits of the
>> +			physical start address it should jump to.
>>  
>>  Example 1 (dual-cluster big.LITTLE system 32-bit):
>>  
>> -- 
>> 1.9.1
>>
>>
> 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>
To: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
Cc: "mporter@linaro.org" <mporter@linaro.org>,
	"bcm@fixthebug.org" <bcm@fixthebug.org>,
	"linux@arm.linux.org.uk" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"arnd@arndb.de" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"sboyd@codeaurora.org" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	"bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com"
	<bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"galak@codeaurora.org" <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	"ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk" <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	"jason@lakedaemon.net" <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@arm.com>,
	"rdunlap@infradead.org" <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"rjui@broadcom.com" <rjui@broadcom.com>r
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/5] devicetree: bindings: document Broadcom CPU enable method
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 22:30:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53855867.7050800@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140527114958.GC18476@e102568-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 05/27/2014 06:49 AM, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 06:43:46PM +0100, Alex Elder wrote:
>> Broadcom mobile SoCs use a ROM-implemented holding pen for
>> controlled boot of secondary cores.  A special register is
>> used to communicate to the ROM that a secondary core should
>> start executing kernel code.  This enable method is currently
>> used for members of the bcm281xx and bcm21664 SoC families.
>>
>> The use of an enable method also allows the SMP operation vector to
>> be assigned as a result of device tree content for these SoCs.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>
> 
> This is getting out of control, it is absolutely ghastly. I wonder how
> I can manage to keep cpus.txt updated if anyone with a boot method
> du jour adds into cpus.txt, and honestly in this specific case it is even
> hard to understand why.

OK, in this message I'll focus on the particulars of this
proposed binding.

> Can't it be done with bindings for the relative register address space
> (regmap ?) and platform code just calls the registers driver to set-up the
> jump address ? It is platform specific code anyway there is no way you
> can make this generic.

I want to clarify what you're after here.

My aim is to add SMP support for a class of Broadcom SMP
machines.  To do so, I'm told I need to use the technique
of assigning the SMP operations vector as a result of
identifying an enable method in the DT.

For 32-bit ARM, there are no generic "enable-method" values.
(I did attempt to create one for "spin-table" but that was
rejected by Russell King.)  For the machines I'm trying to
enable, secondary CPUS start out spinning in a ROM-based
holding pen, and there is no need for a kernel-based one.

However, like a spin-table/holding pen enable method, a
memory location is required for coordination between the
boot CPU running kernel code and secondary CPUs running ROM
code.  My proposal specifies it using a special numeric
property value named "secondary-boot-reg" in the "cpus"
node in the DT.

And as I understand it, the issue you have relates to how
this memory location is specified.

You suggest regmap.  I'm using a single 32-bit register,
only at very early boot time, and thereafter access to
it is meaningless.  It seems like overkill if it's only
used for this purpose.  I could hide the register values
in the code, but with the exception of that, the code I'm
using is generic (in the context of this class of Broadcom
machine).  I could specify the register differently somehow,
in a different node, or with a different property.

The bottom line here is I'm not sure whether I understand
what you're suggesting, or perhaps why what you suggest is
preferable.  I'm very open to suggestions, I just need it
laid out a bit more detail in order to respond directly.

Thanks.

					-Alex

> I really do not see the point in cluttering cpus.txt with this stuff, it
> is a platform specific hack, and do not belong in generic bindings in my
> opinion.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lorenzo
> 
>> ---
>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt | 12 ++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
>> index 333f4ae..c6a2411 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
>> @@ -185,6 +185,7 @@ nodes to be present and contain the properties described below.
>>  			    "qcom,gcc-msm8660"
>>  			    "qcom,kpss-acc-v1"
>>  			    "qcom,kpss-acc-v2"
>> +			    "brcm,bcm11351-cpu-method"
>>  
>>  	- cpu-release-addr
>>  		Usage: required for systems that have an "enable-method"
>> @@ -209,6 +210,17 @@ nodes to be present and contain the properties described below.
>>  		Value type: <phandle>
>>  		Definition: Specifies the ACC[2] node associated with this CPU.
>>  
>> +	- secondary-boot-reg
>> +		Usage:
>> +			Required for systems that have an "enable-method"
>> +			property value of "brcm,bcm11351-cpu-method".
>> +		Value type: <u32>
>> +		Definition:
>> +			Specifies the physical address of the register used to
>> +			request the ROM holding pen code release a secondary
>> +			CPU.  The value written to the register is formed by
>> +			encoding the target CPU id into the low bits of the
>> +			physical start address it should jump to.
>>  
>>  Example 1 (dual-cluster big.LITTLE system 32-bit):
>>  
>> -- 
>> 1.9.1
>>
>>
> 


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>
To: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
Cc: "mporter@linaro.org" <mporter@linaro.org>,
	"bcm@fixthebug.org" <bcm@fixthebug.org>,
	"linux@arm.linux.org.uk" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"arnd@arndb.de" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"sboyd@codeaurora.org" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	"bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com" 
	<bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"galak@codeaurora.org" <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	"ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk" <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	"jason@lakedaemon.net" <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@arm.com>,
	"rdunlap@infradead.org" <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"rjui@broadcom.com" <rjui@broadcom.com>,
	"robh+dt@kernel.org" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"rvaswani@codeaurora.org" <rvaswani@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/5] devicetree: bindings: document Broadcom CPU enable method
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 22:30:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53855867.7050800@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140527114958.GC18476@e102568-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 05/27/2014 06:49 AM, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 06:43:46PM +0100, Alex Elder wrote:
>> Broadcom mobile SoCs use a ROM-implemented holding pen for
>> controlled boot of secondary cores.  A special register is
>> used to communicate to the ROM that a secondary core should
>> start executing kernel code.  This enable method is currently
>> used for members of the bcm281xx and bcm21664 SoC families.
>>
>> The use of an enable method also allows the SMP operation vector to
>> be assigned as a result of device tree content for these SoCs.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>
> 
> This is getting out of control, it is absolutely ghastly. I wonder how
> I can manage to keep cpus.txt updated if anyone with a boot method
> du jour adds into cpus.txt, and honestly in this specific case it is even
> hard to understand why.

OK, in this message I'll focus on the particulars of this
proposed binding.

> Can't it be done with bindings for the relative register address space
> (regmap ?) and platform code just calls the registers driver to set-up the
> jump address ? It is platform specific code anyway there is no way you
> can make this generic.

I want to clarify what you're after here.

My aim is to add SMP support for a class of Broadcom SMP
machines.  To do so, I'm told I need to use the technique
of assigning the SMP operations vector as a result of
identifying an enable method in the DT.

For 32-bit ARM, there are no generic "enable-method" values.
(I did attempt to create one for "spin-table" but that was
rejected by Russell King.)  For the machines I'm trying to
enable, secondary CPUS start out spinning in a ROM-based
holding pen, and there is no need for a kernel-based one.

However, like a spin-table/holding pen enable method, a
memory location is required for coordination between the
boot CPU running kernel code and secondary CPUs running ROM
code.  My proposal specifies it using a special numeric
property value named "secondary-boot-reg" in the "cpus"
node in the DT.

And as I understand it, the issue you have relates to how
this memory location is specified.

You suggest regmap.  I'm using a single 32-bit register,
only at very early boot time, and thereafter access to
it is meaningless.  It seems like overkill if it's only
used for this purpose.  I could hide the register values
in the code, but with the exception of that, the code I'm
using is generic (in the context of this class of Broadcom
machine).  I could specify the register differently somehow,
in a different node, or with a different property.

The bottom line here is I'm not sure whether I understand
what you're suggesting, or perhaps why what you suggest is
preferable.  I'm very open to suggestions, I just need it
laid out a bit more detail in order to respond directly.

Thanks.

					-Alex

> I really do not see the point in cluttering cpus.txt with this stuff, it
> is a platform specific hack, and do not belong in generic bindings in my
> opinion.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lorenzo
> 
>> ---
>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt | 12 ++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
>> index 333f4ae..c6a2411 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
>> @@ -185,6 +185,7 @@ nodes to be present and contain the properties described below.
>>  			    "qcom,gcc-msm8660"
>>  			    "qcom,kpss-acc-v1"
>>  			    "qcom,kpss-acc-v2"
>> +			    "brcm,bcm11351-cpu-method"
>>  
>>  	- cpu-release-addr
>>  		Usage: required for systems that have an "enable-method"
>> @@ -209,6 +210,17 @@ nodes to be present and contain the properties described below.
>>  		Value type: <phandle>
>>  		Definition: Specifies the ACC[2] node associated with this CPU.
>>  
>> +	- secondary-boot-reg
>> +		Usage:
>> +			Required for systems that have an "enable-method"
>> +			property value of "brcm,bcm11351-cpu-method".
>> +		Value type: <u32>
>> +		Definition:
>> +			Specifies the physical address of the register used to
>> +			request the ROM holding pen code release a secondary
>> +			CPU.  The value written to the register is formed by
>> +			encoding the target CPU id into the low bits of the
>> +			physical start address it should jump to.
>>  
>>  Example 1 (dual-cluster big.LITTLE system 32-bit):
>>  
>> -- 
>> 1.9.1
>>
>>
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-28  3:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-20 17:43 [PATCH v4 0/5] ARM: SMP: support Broadcom mobile SoCs Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43 ` Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] devicetree: bindings: document Broadcom CPU enable method Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43   ` Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43   ` Alex Elder
2014-05-27 11:49   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-05-27 11:49     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-05-27 11:49     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-05-27 13:43     ` Alex Elder
2014-05-27 13:43       ` Alex Elder
2014-05-27 13:43       ` Alex Elder
2014-05-28  3:30     ` Alex Elder [this message]
2014-05-28  3:30       ` Alex Elder
2014-05-28  3:30       ` Alex Elder
2014-05-28 10:36       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-05-28 10:36         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-05-28 10:36         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-05-28 12:22         ` Alex Elder
2014-05-28 12:22           ` Alex Elder
2014-05-28 12:22           ` Alex Elder
2014-05-28 13:34           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-05-28 13:34             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-05-28 13:34             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-05-28 13:58             ` Alex Elder
2014-05-28 13:58               ` Alex Elder
2014-05-28 13:58               ` Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] ARM: add SMP support for Broadcom mobile SoCs Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43   ` Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43   ` Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] ARM: configs: enable SMP in bcm_defconfig Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43   ` Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] ARM: dts: enable SMP support for bcm28155 Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43   ` Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] ARM: dts: enable SMP support for bcm21664 Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:43   ` Alex Elder
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-05-20 17:40 [PATCH v4 0/5] ARM: SMP: support Broadcom mobile SoCs Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:40 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] devicetree: bindings: document Broadcom CPU enable method Alex Elder
2014-05-20 17:40   ` Alex Elder

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