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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Gabriel L. Somlo" <gsomlo@gmail.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Michael Mueller" <mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	"Jason J. Herne" <jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] GET_EMULATED_CPUID support with "allow-emulation" option
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:45:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53909E9C.6080009@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53909E53.9050300@redhat.com>


On 05.06.14 18:44, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 05/06/2014 18:40, Alexander Graf ha scritto:
>>
>>
>>   kvm_set_cpuid(cpuid);
>>
>> but enabling all experimental features inside KVM just because we want
>> one or two of them is very counter-intuitive. Imagine we'd introduce
>> emulation support for AVX. Suddenly allow-emulation (which I'd need for
>> Mac OS X 10.5) would enable AVX as well which I really don't want 
>> enabled.
>
> Only if you were using "-cpu somethingThatHasAVX", though, no?

Yes. The same argument goes the other way around. I want to use AVX 
emulation, do "allow-emulation" and suddenly I get MONITOR/MWAIT emulation.


Alex


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Michael Mueller" <mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	"Gabriel L. Somlo" <gsomlo@gmail.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Jason J. Herne" <jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/2] GET_EMULATED_CPUID support with "allow-emulation" option
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:45:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53909E9C.6080009@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53909E53.9050300@redhat.com>


On 05.06.14 18:44, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 05/06/2014 18:40, Alexander Graf ha scritto:
>>
>>
>>   kvm_set_cpuid(cpuid);
>>
>> but enabling all experimental features inside KVM just because we want
>> one or two of them is very counter-intuitive. Imagine we'd introduce
>> emulation support for AVX. Suddenly allow-emulation (which I'd need for
>> Mac OS X 10.5) would enable AVX as well which I really don't want 
>> enabled.
>
> Only if you were using "-cpu somethingThatHasAVX", though, no?

Yes. The same argument goes the other way around. I want to use AVX 
emulation, do "allow-emulation" and suddenly I get MONITOR/MWAIT emulation.


Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-05 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-05 16:12 [RFC 0/2] GET_EMULATED_CPUID support with "allow-emulation" option Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 16:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 16:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/2] kvm: Implement kvm_arch_get_emulated_cpuid() Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 16:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/2] target-i386: Add "allow-emulation" X86CPU property Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 19:57   ` [RFC 2/2 v2] target-i386: Add "x-allow-emulation" " Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 19:57     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 22:27     ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-05 22:27       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2014-06-05 16:24 ` [RFC 0/2] GET_EMULATED_CPUID support with "allow-emulation" option Alexander Graf
2014-06-05 16:24   ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2014-06-05 16:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-05 16:26     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-05 16:40     ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-05 16:40       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2014-06-05 16:44       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-05 16:44         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-05 16:45         ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2014-06-05 16:45           ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-05 16:52           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-05 16:52             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-05 16:54             ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-05 16:54               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2014-06-05 16:57               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-05 16:57                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-05 17:19                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 17:19                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 17:39                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-05 17:39                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-05 18:02                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 18:02                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 19:12                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 19:12                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 19:24                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-05 19:24                           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-05 19:45                           ` Eric Blake
2014-06-05 19:45                             ` Eric Blake
2014-06-05 19:52                             ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 19:52                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 16:58             ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-05 16:58               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2014-06-05 17:48               ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 17:48                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 22:24                 ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-05 22:24                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2014-06-06  1:21                   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-06  1:21                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Borislav Petkov
2014-06-06  2:37                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-06  2:37                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-06 11:16                       ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-06 11:16                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2014-06-06 18:38                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-06 18:38                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 17:17           ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 17:17             ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 17:38             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-05 17:38               ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-05 17:52               ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 17:52                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 17:34       ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 17:34         ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-06 13:29     ` gleb
2014-06-06 13:29       ` [Qemu-devel] " gleb
2014-06-05 18:11   ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-06-05 18:11     ` Eduardo Habkost

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