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From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Anil Madhavapeddy <anil@recoil.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	David Scott <Dave.Scott@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	andrii.tseglytskyi@globallogic.com
Subject: Re: [Xen Hackathon] new PV drivers
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 10:30:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5395C50E.6010705@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1406091040060.2526@kaball.uk.xensource.com>

On 06/09/2014 05:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014, Ian Campbell wrote:
>> On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 14:56 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote:
>>> On 3 Jun 2014, at 12:47, Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Present (by memory):
>>>> - Julien Grall,
>>>> - Stefano Stabellini,
>>>> - Ian Campbell,
>>>> - Roger Pau Monne,
>>>> - Dario Faggioli,
>>>> - Andrii Tseglytskyi,
>>>> - David Vrabel,
>>>> - Konrad Wilk.
>>>>
>>>> * What new PV devices do we need? What has been done already?
>>> I missed this session, but was wondering about an entropy driver.
>>> We're integrating an OCaml SSL/TLS into MirageOS, and it's not clear
>>> how PV guests should go about getting a strong source of entropy from
>>> the outside world in a reasonably portable way.


Is entropy provided by drivers/char/random.c not sufficient?

-boris


>>>
>>> VirtIO has a RNG [1] -- has anyone got any interest in a PV protocol
>>> for Xen that does the same?
>> IMHO support for these sorts of things is actually one of the few good
>> reasons to be considering support for basic virtio on Xen.
>>
>> Alternatively AIUI a bunch of these sort of virtio devices are just
>> protocols built on top of virtio_serial, so we could perhaps be thinking
>> of repurposing them over Xen's serial PV device. Dave S was
>> investigating the difference between libvirt "serial" and "channel"
>> recently and AIUI the difference was that a channel could be named in
>> order to support bindings to these higher level things (i.e. appearing
>> to the guest as /dev/rng instead of /dev/hvcN).
> However writing a good PV-RNG should be far easier than making virtio
> work properly with Xen PV guests.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-09 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-03 11:47 [Xen Hackathon] new PV drivers Stefano Stabellini
2014-06-06 13:56 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2014-06-08  0:02   ` Adam Wick
2014-06-09  9:02   ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-09  9:42     ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-06-09  9:45       ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-09 14:30       ` Boris Ostrovsky [this message]
2014-06-09 14:33         ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-09 14:39           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-06-09 14:43             ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-09 14:55               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-06-09 15:06                 ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-09 19:16                   ` Andy Smith

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