From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Boris Ostrovsky Subject: Re: [Xen Hackathon] new PV drivers Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 10:39:54 -0400 Message-ID: <5395C73A.8060007@oracle.com> References: <1402304558.14895.8.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> <5395C50E.6010705@oracle.com> <1402324439.23103.7.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <1402324439.23103.7.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Ian Campbell Cc: andrii.tseglytskyi@globallogic.com, Anil Madhavapeddy , David Scott , xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Stefano Stabellini List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On 06/09/2014 10:33 AM, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 10:30 -0400, Boris Ostrovsky wrote: >> On 06/09/2014 05:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>> On Mon, 9 Jun 2014, Ian Campbell wrote: >>>> On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 14:56 +0100, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: >>>>> On 3 Jun 2014, at 12:47, Stefano Stabellini wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Present (by memory): >>>>>> - Julien Grall, >>>>>> - Stefano Stabellini, >>>>>> - Ian Campbell, >>>>>> - Roger Pau Monne, >>>>>> - Dario Faggioli, >>>>>> - Andrii Tseglytskyi, >>>>>> - David Vrabel, >>>>>> - Konrad Wilk. >>>>>> >>>>>> * What new PV devices do we need? What has been done already? >>>>> I missed this session, but was wondering about an entropy driver. >>>>> We're integrating an OCaml SSL/TLS into MirageOS, and it's not clear >>>>> how PV guests should go about getting a strong source of entropy from >>>>> the outside world in a reasonably portable way. >> >> Is entropy provided by drivers/char/random.c not sufficient? > This is about providing entropy for that driver to consume. > > VMs typically don't have much hardware and therefore don't have much > entropy to seed the pool with. So this is about seeding, not feeding? (sorry, did not mean to start rhyming ;-)). -boris