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From: Marcel Ziswiler <marcel-mitwqZ+T+m9Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>,
	thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	stefan-XLVq0VzYD2Y@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] arm: tegra: enable igb, stmpe, i2c chardev, spidev, lm95245, pwm leds
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:16:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5396322D.6030003@ziswiler.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140604111755.GG2520-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>

On 06/04/2014 01:17 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> You're saying you're controlling it from userspace.  This is a
> particular detail of what you are doing in your system.  You happen to
> want to control the devices you are hanging off the system with
> userspace drivers but that's just what you're doing right now.

Sorry, I don't get it. Yes, spidev is to control stuff from user space 
just like i2c-dev however bad that might sound.

> No, that's in the controller node - the chip selects are described
> there.  The child node references a chip select number that the master
> has and describes what's connected to that chip select.

Well, unfortunately SPI without any chip select is just plain simply 
useless. It won't work.

> It's a perfectly fine way of controlling things from userspace if that's
> a sensible way of controlling devices but that does not mean you should
> describe it in the device tree in that fashion.

Only that without describing such a chip select in the device tree 
spidev won't ever work.

I don't see us reaching any consensus here therefore I retreat. I will 
re-submit the whole thing without spidev however sad having to see that 
useful feature being dropped.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: marcel@ziswiler.com (Marcel Ziswiler)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/3] arm: tegra: enable igb, stmpe, i2c chardev, spidev, lm95245, pwm leds
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:16:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5396322D.6030003@ziswiler.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140604111755.GG2520@sirena.org.uk>

On 06/04/2014 01:17 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> You're saying you're controlling it from userspace.  This is a
> particular detail of what you are doing in your system.  You happen to
> want to control the devices you are hanging off the system with
> userspace drivers but that's just what you're doing right now.

Sorry, I don't get it. Yes, spidev is to control stuff from user space 
just like i2c-dev however bad that might sound.

> No, that's in the controller node - the chip selects are described
> there.  The child node references a chip select number that the master
> has and describes what's connected to that chip select.

Well, unfortunately SPI without any chip select is just plain simply 
useless. It won't work.

> It's a perfectly fine way of controlling things from userspace if that's
> a sensible way of controlling devices but that does not mean you should
> describe it in the device tree in that fashion.

Only that without describing such a chip select in the device tree 
spidev won't ever work.

I don't see us reaching any consensus here therefore I retreat. I will 
re-submit the whole thing without spidev however sad having to see that 
useful feature being dropped.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Marcel Ziswiler <marcel@ziswiler.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	thierry.reding@gmail.com, linux@arm.linux.org.uk,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	stefan@agner.ch
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] arm: tegra: enable igb, stmpe, i2c chardev, spidev, lm95245, pwm leds
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:16:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5396322D.6030003@ziswiler.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140604111755.GG2520@sirena.org.uk>

On 06/04/2014 01:17 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> You're saying you're controlling it from userspace.  This is a
> particular detail of what you are doing in your system.  You happen to
> want to control the devices you are hanging off the system with
> userspace drivers but that's just what you're doing right now.

Sorry, I don't get it. Yes, spidev is to control stuff from user space 
just like i2c-dev however bad that might sound.

> No, that's in the controller node - the chip selects are described
> there.  The child node references a chip select number that the master
> has and describes what's connected to that chip select.

Well, unfortunately SPI without any chip select is just plain simply 
useless. It won't work.

> It's a perfectly fine way of controlling things from userspace if that's
> a sensible way of controlling devices but that does not mean you should
> describe it in the device tree in that fashion.

Only that without describing such a chip select in the device tree 
spidev won't ever work.

I don't see us reaching any consensus here therefore I retreat. I will 
re-submit the whole thing without spidev however sad having to see that 
useful feature being dropped.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-09 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <c5522b0efcbfc7690dcde6aaf78b9dd568f99604.1401665237.git.marcel@ziswiler.com>
     [not found] ` <c5522b0efcbfc7690dcde6aaf78b9dd568f99604.1401665237.git.marcel-mitwqZ+T+m9Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-01 23:37   ` [PATCH 2/3] arm: tegra: enable igb, stmpe, i2c chardev, spidev, lm95245, pwm leds Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-01 23:37     ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-01 23:37     ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-02 16:11     ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-02 16:11       ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-02 16:28       ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-02 16:28         ` Marcel Ziswiler
     [not found]         ` <538CA635.4050502-mitwqZ+T+m9Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 22:16           ` Mark Brown
2014-06-02 22:16             ` Mark Brown
2014-06-02 22:16             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <20140602221627.GP31751-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-03  6:02               ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-03  6:02                 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-03  6:02                 ` Marcel Ziswiler
     [not found]                 ` <538D64FD.2010909-mitwqZ+T+m9Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-03  9:45                   ` Mark Brown
2014-06-03  9:45                     ` Mark Brown
2014-06-03  9:45                     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                     ` <20140603094537.GQ31751-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04  6:20                       ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-04  6:20                         ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-04  6:20                         ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-04 11:17                         ` Mark Brown
2014-06-04 11:17                           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                           ` <20140604111755.GG2520-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-09 22:16                             ` Marcel Ziswiler [this message]
2014-06-09 22:16                               ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-09 22:16                               ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-09 22:57                               ` Mark Brown
2014-06-09 22:57                                 ` Mark Brown
2014-06-01 23:37   ` [PATCH 3/3] arm: tegra: initial support for apalis t30 Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-01 23:37     ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-01 23:37     ` Marcel Ziswiler
     [not found]     ` <b470c9c8631a6ef021d140192eb07006de3cfd93.1401665237.git.marcel-mitwqZ+T+m9Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 16:26       ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-02 16:26         ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-02 16:26         ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <538CA5C3.5050709-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 20:18           ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-02 20:18             ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-02 20:18             ` Marcel Ziswiler
     [not found]             ` <538CDC08.7020106-mitwqZ+T+m9Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 20:33               ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-02 20:33                 ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-02 20:33                 ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-02 16:33       ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-02 16:33         ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-02 16:33         ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <538CA749.3010106-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 20:24           ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-02 20:24             ` Marcel Ziswiler
2014-06-02 20:24             ` Marcel Ziswiler

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