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From: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
To: Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>,
	xenomai@xenomai.org
Subject: Re: [Xenomai] [Xenomai-git] Philippe Gerum : cobalt/posix: drop pthread_make_periodic_np/ wait_period_np services
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 09:36:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <539FEFF0.6020107@xenomai.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <539FED92.5020604@xenomai.org>

On 06/17/2014 09:26 AM, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
> On 06/17/2014 09:23 AM, Philippe Gerum wrote:
>> On 06/16/2014 11:14 PM, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
>>> On 06/16/2014 09:16 PM, Philippe Gerum wrote:
>>>> On 06/16/2014 09:02 PM, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
>>>>> On 06/16/2014 06:41 PM, git repository hosting wrote:
>>>>>> Module: xenomai-forge
>>>>>> Branch: next
>>>>>> Commit: a4a6ff9a9c9614d3e8ac860386fa3b168c649af0
>>>>>> URL:    http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-forge.git;a=commit;h=a4a6ff9a9c9614d3e8ac860386fa3b168c649af0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Author: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
>>>>>> Date:   Mon Jun 16 18:39:44 2014 +0200
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cobalt/posix: drop pthread_make_periodic_np/wait_period_np services
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have no more in-tree users of these calls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the introduction of services to support real-time signals, those
>>>>>> two non-portable calls have become redundant. Instead, Cobalt-based
>>>>>> applications should create a periodic timer using the timer_create()
>>>>>> call, and wait for release points via sigwaitinfo(), checking for
>>>>>> overruns by looking at the siginfo.si_overrun field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alternatively, applications may include a timer source in a
>>>>>> synchronous multiplexing operation, by passing a file descriptor
>>>>>> returned by the timerfd() service to a select() call.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, read is more direct than select + read, and it allows to get
>>>>> the count of overruns too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As mentioned in the log, the illustration given is about synchronous
>>>> multiplexing, e.g. waiting for a release point in a timeline _and_ other
>>>> I/O event at the same time, not about single-sourced wait on a timer.
>>>> Otherwise you would just don't care a dime about using select(), I guess.
>>>>
>>> timerfd_create / read is a strict replacement for
>>> pthread_make_periodic_np/pthread_wait_period_np. Adding a call to select
>>> simply adds some overhead that was not here in the first place. It
>>> should be made clear in the documentation that calling select is not
>>> necessary, otherwise users reading the documentation may assume that
>>> they have to call select, and suddenly observe a larger latency and at
>>> best complain, or at worst decide to stay with the old API.
>>>
>>
>> Which documentation mentioning select + read are you referring to?
>>
> +- `pthread_make_periodic_np()` and `pthread_wait_np()` have been
> +removed from the API.
> +
> +.Rationale
> +**********************************************************************
> +With the introduction of services to support
> +<<real-time-signals,real-time signals>>, those two non-portable calls
> +have become redundant. Instead, Cobalt-based applications should
> +create a periodic timer using the `timer_create()` call, and wait for
> +release points via `sigwaitinfo()`, checking for overruns by looking
> +at the `siginfo.si_overrun` field. Alternatively, applications may
> +include a timer source in a synchronous multiplexing operation, by
> +passing a file descriptor returned by the `timerfd()` service to a
> +`select()` call.
> +**********************************************************************
>
>

There is no mention of the timerfd+read combo in this excerpt, what is 
mentioned is including a timerfd in synchronous multiplexing of multiple 
event sources. You seem to choke on "Alternatively", which is 
misleading, in should read "In addition" or something along. I'll fix this.

-- 
Philippe.


      reply	other threads:[~2014-06-17  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1WwZye-0002zC-2B@sd-51317.dedibox.fr>
2014-06-16 19:02 ` [Xenomai] [Xenomai-git] Philippe Gerum : cobalt/posix: drop pthread_make_periodic_np/ wait_period_np services Gilles Chanteperdrix
2014-06-16 19:16   ` Philippe Gerum
2014-06-16 19:36     ` Philippe Gerum
2014-06-16 21:14     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2014-06-17  7:23       ` Philippe Gerum
2014-06-17  7:26         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2014-06-17  7:36           ` Philippe Gerum [this message]

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