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From: micky <micky_ching@realsil.com.cn>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-mmc <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Ball <chris@printf.net>, Wei WANG <wei_wang@realsil.com.cn>,
	Roger <rogerable@realtek.com>,
	devel@linuxdriverproject.org, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mmc: rtsx: add support for async request
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 09:57:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53A24379.2060502@realsil.com.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFog22CiW5PqfOiikuz2JcYArj2qB0YvoK5FiQqrJfA3oQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/18/2014 07:03 PM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> On 18 June 2014 12:08, micky <micky_ching@realsil.com.cn> wrote:
>> On 06/18/2014 03:39 PM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>> On 18 June 2014 03:17, micky <micky_ching@realsil.com.cn> wrote:
>>>> On 06/17/2014 03:45 PM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>>>> On 17 June 2014 03:04, micky <micky_ching@realsil.com.cn> wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/16/2014 08:40 PM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 16 June 2014 11:09, micky <micky_ching@realsil.com.cn> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 06/16/2014 04:42 PM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -36,7 +37,10 @@ struct realtek_pci_sdmmc {
>>>>>>>>>>>             struct rtsx_pcr         *pcr;
>>>>>>>>>>>             struct mmc_host         *mmc;
>>>>>>>>>>>             struct mmc_request      *mrq;
>>>>>>>>>>> +       struct workqueue_struct *workq;
>>>>>>>>>>> +#define SDMMC_WORKQ_NAME       "rtsx_pci_sdmmc_workq"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +       struct work_struct      work;
>>>>>>>>> I am trying to understand why you need a work/workqueue to implement
>>>>>>>>> this feature. Is that really the case?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could you elaborate on the reasons?
>>>>>>>> Hi Uffe,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we need return as fast as possible in mmc_host_ops
>>>>>>>> request(ops->request)
>>>>>>>> callback,
>>>>>>>> so the mmc core can continue handle next request.
>>>>>>>> when next request everything is ready, it will wait previous done(if
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> done),
>>>>>>>> then call ops->request().
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we can't use atomic context, because we use mutex_lock() to protect
>>>>>>> ops->request should never executed in atomic context. Is that your
>>>>>>> concern?
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>> Okay. Unless I missed your point, I don't think you need the
>>>>> work/workqueue.
>>>> any other method?
>>>>
>>>>> Because, ops->request isn't ever executed in atomic context. That's
>>>>> due to the mmc core, which handles the async mechanism, are waiting
>>>>> for a completion variable in process context, before it invokes the
>>>>> ops->request() callback.
>>>>>
>>>>> That completion variable will be kicked, from your host driver, when
>>>>> you invoke mmc_request_done(), .
>>>> Sorry, I don't understand here, how kicked?
>>> mmc_request_done()
>>>       ->mrq->done()
>>>           ->mmc_wait_done()
>>>               ->complete(&mrq->completion);
>>>
>>>> I think the flow is:
>>>> - not wait for first req
>>>> - init mrq->done
>>>> - ops->request()                         ---         A.rtsx: start queue
>>>> work.
>>>> - continue fetch next req
>>>> - prepare next req ok,
>>>> - wait previous done.                --- B.(mmc_request_done() may be
>>>> called
>>>> at any time from A to B)
>>>> - init mrq->done
>>>> - ops->request()                         ---         C.rtsx: start queue
>>>> next work.
>>>> ...
>>>> and seems no problem.
>>> Right, I don't think there are any _problem_ by using the workqueue as
>>> you have implemented, but I am questioning if it's correct. Simply
>>> because I don't think there are any reasons to why you need a
>>> workqueue, it doesn't solve any problem for you - it just adds
>>> overhead.
>> Hi Uffe,
>>
>> we have two driver under mfd, the rtsx-mmc and rtsx-ms,
>> we use mutex lock(pcr_mutex) to protect resource,
>> when we handle mmc request, we need hold the mutex until we finish the
>> request,
>> so it will not interruptted by rtsx-ms request.
> Ahh, I see. Now, _that_ explains why you want the workqueue. :-) Thanks!
>
>> If we not use workq, once the request hold the mutex, we have to wait until
>> the request finish,
>> then release mutex, so the mmc core is blocking at here.
>> To implement nonblocking request, we have to use workq.
> One minor suggestion below, please consider this as an optimization
> which goes outside the context of this patch.
>
> There are cases when I think you should be able to skip the overhead
> from scheduling the work from ->request(). Those cases can be
> described as when the mutex are available which can be tested by using
> mutex_trylock().
Thanks for your suggestion.

we need schedule the work every time mmc core call ops->request(),
if we want to handle request, we need hold mutex and do the work.
so mutex_trylock() will not help decrease overhead.
if we not schedule the work, the ops->request will do nothing.

Best Regards.
micky
> Kind regards
> Uffe
> .
>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: micky <micky_ching@realsil.com.cn>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>, Chris Ball <chris@printf.net>,
	<devel@linuxdriverproject.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mmc <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>,
	Roger <rogerable@realtek.com>,
	"Wei WANG" <wei_wang@realsil.com.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mmc: rtsx: add support for async request
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 09:57:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53A24379.2060502@realsil.com.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFog22CiW5PqfOiikuz2JcYArj2qB0YvoK5FiQqrJfA3oQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/18/2014 07:03 PM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> On 18 June 2014 12:08, micky <micky_ching@realsil.com.cn> wrote:
>> On 06/18/2014 03:39 PM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>> On 18 June 2014 03:17, micky <micky_ching@realsil.com.cn> wrote:
>>>> On 06/17/2014 03:45 PM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>>>> On 17 June 2014 03:04, micky <micky_ching@realsil.com.cn> wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/16/2014 08:40 PM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 16 June 2014 11:09, micky <micky_ching@realsil.com.cn> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 06/16/2014 04:42 PM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -36,7 +37,10 @@ struct realtek_pci_sdmmc {
>>>>>>>>>>>             struct rtsx_pcr         *pcr;
>>>>>>>>>>>             struct mmc_host         *mmc;
>>>>>>>>>>>             struct mmc_request      *mrq;
>>>>>>>>>>> +       struct workqueue_struct *workq;
>>>>>>>>>>> +#define SDMMC_WORKQ_NAME       "rtsx_pci_sdmmc_workq"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +       struct work_struct      work;
>>>>>>>>> I am trying to understand why you need a work/workqueue to implement
>>>>>>>>> this feature. Is that really the case?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could you elaborate on the reasons?
>>>>>>>> Hi Uffe,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we need return as fast as possible in mmc_host_ops
>>>>>>>> request(ops->request)
>>>>>>>> callback,
>>>>>>>> so the mmc core can continue handle next request.
>>>>>>>> when next request everything is ready, it will wait previous done(if
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> done),
>>>>>>>> then call ops->request().
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we can't use atomic context, because we use mutex_lock() to protect
>>>>>>> ops->request should never executed in atomic context. Is that your
>>>>>>> concern?
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>> Okay. Unless I missed your point, I don't think you need the
>>>>> work/workqueue.
>>>> any other method?
>>>>
>>>>> Because, ops->request isn't ever executed in atomic context. That's
>>>>> due to the mmc core, which handles the async mechanism, are waiting
>>>>> for a completion variable in process context, before it invokes the
>>>>> ops->request() callback.
>>>>>
>>>>> That completion variable will be kicked, from your host driver, when
>>>>> you invoke mmc_request_done(), .
>>>> Sorry, I don't understand here, how kicked?
>>> mmc_request_done()
>>>       ->mrq->done()
>>>           ->mmc_wait_done()
>>>               ->complete(&mrq->completion);
>>>
>>>> I think the flow is:
>>>> - not wait for first req
>>>> - init mrq->done
>>>> - ops->request()                         ---         A.rtsx: start queue
>>>> work.
>>>> - continue fetch next req
>>>> - prepare next req ok,
>>>> - wait previous done.                --- B.(mmc_request_done() may be
>>>> called
>>>> at any time from A to B)
>>>> - init mrq->done
>>>> - ops->request()                         ---         C.rtsx: start queue
>>>> next work.
>>>> ...
>>>> and seems no problem.
>>> Right, I don't think there are any _problem_ by using the workqueue as
>>> you have implemented, but I am questioning if it's correct. Simply
>>> because I don't think there are any reasons to why you need a
>>> workqueue, it doesn't solve any problem for you - it just adds
>>> overhead.
>> Hi Uffe,
>>
>> we have two driver under mfd, the rtsx-mmc and rtsx-ms,
>> we use mutex lock(pcr_mutex) to protect resource,
>> when we handle mmc request, we need hold the mutex until we finish the
>> request,
>> so it will not interruptted by rtsx-ms request.
> Ahh, I see. Now, _that_ explains why you want the workqueue. :-) Thanks!
>
>> If we not use workq, once the request hold the mutex, we have to wait until
>> the request finish,
>> then release mutex, so the mmc core is blocking at here.
>> To implement nonblocking request, we have to use workq.
> One minor suggestion below, please consider this as an optimization
> which goes outside the context of this patch.
>
> There are cases when I think you should be able to skip the overhead
> from scheduling the work from ->request(). Those cases can be
> described as when the mutex are available which can be tested by using
> mutex_trylock().
Thanks for your suggestion.

we need schedule the work every time mmc core call ops->request(),
if we want to handle request, we need hold mutex and do the work.
so mutex_trylock() will not help decrease overhead.
if we not schedule the work, the ops->request will do nothing.

Best Regards.
micky
> Kind regards
> Uffe
> .
>


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-19  1:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-06  7:05 [PATCH 0/2] mmc: rtsx: add support for async request micky_ching
2014-06-06  7:05 ` micky_ching
2014-06-06  7:05 ` [PATCH 1/2] mfd: rtsx: add dma transfer function micky_ching
2014-06-06  7:05   ` micky_ching
2014-06-16 12:20   ` Lee Jones
2014-06-16 14:24     ` Ulf Hansson
2014-06-16 14:24       ` Ulf Hansson
2014-06-18  8:00       ` Lee Jones
2014-07-02  9:14         ` micky
2014-07-02  9:14           ` micky
2014-07-02 12:15           ` Lee Jones
2014-06-17  1:08     ` micky
2014-06-17  1:08       ` micky
2014-06-06  7:05 ` [PATCH 2/2] mmc: rtsx: add support for async request micky_ching
2014-06-06  7:05   ` micky_ching
2014-06-16  8:42   ` Ulf Hansson
2014-06-16  8:42     ` Ulf Hansson
2014-06-16  8:51     ` Arend van Spriel
2014-06-16  8:51       ` Arend van Spriel
2014-06-16  9:09     ` micky
2014-06-16  9:09       ` micky
2014-06-16 12:40       ` Ulf Hansson
2014-06-17  1:04         ` micky
2014-06-17  1:04           ` micky
2014-06-17  7:45           ` Ulf Hansson
2014-06-17  7:45             ` Ulf Hansson
2014-06-18  1:17             ` micky
2014-06-18  1:17               ` micky
2014-06-18  7:39               ` Ulf Hansson
2014-06-18  7:39                 ` Ulf Hansson
2014-06-18 10:08                 ` micky
2014-06-18 10:08                   ` micky
2014-06-18 11:03                   ` Ulf Hansson
2014-06-19  1:57                     ` micky [this message]
2014-06-19  1:57                       ` micky
2014-06-23  9:26                       ` micky
2014-06-23  9:26                         ` micky
2014-07-02  8:53   ` Ulf Hansson
2014-07-18  7:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Lee Jones
2014-07-18  7:28   ` Lee Jones

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