From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@gmail.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] shmem: fix faulting into a hole, not taking i_mutex
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 09:18:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53C62757.9080501@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1407151156110.3571@eggly.anvils>
On 07/15/2014 09:26 PM, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>>
>> > @@ -760,7 +760,7 @@ static int shmem_writepage(struct page *
>> > spin_lock(&inode->i_lock);
>> > shmem_falloc = inode->i_private;
>>
>> Without ACCESS_ONCE, can shmem_falloc potentially become an alias on
>> inode->i_private and later become re-read outside of the lock?
>
> No, it could be re-read inside the locked section (which is okay since
> the locking ensures the same value would be re-read each time), but it
> cannot be re-read after the unlock. The unlock guarantees that (whereas
> an assignment after the unlock might be moved up before the unlock).
>
> I searched for a simple example (preferably not in code written by me!)
> to convince you. I thought it would be easy to find an example of
>
> spin_lock(&lock);
> thing_to_free = whatever;
> spin_unlock(&lock);
> if (thing_to_free)
> free(thing_to_free);
>
> but everything I hit upon was actually a little more complicated than
> than that (e.g. involving whatever(), or setting whatever = NULL after),
> and therefore less convincing. Please hunt around to convince yourself.
Yeah, I thought myself on the way home that this is probably the case. I guess
some recent bugs made me too paranoid. Sorry for the noise and time you spent
explaining this :/
>>
>> > - if (!shmem_falloc ||
>> > - shmem_falloc->mode != FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE ||
>> > - vmf->pgoff < shmem_falloc->start ||
>> > - vmf->pgoff >= shmem_falloc->next)
>> > - shmem_falloc = NULL;
>> > - spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
>> > - /*
>> > - * i_lock has protected us from taking shmem_falloc seriously
>> > - * once return from shmem_fallocate() went back up that
>> > stack.
>> > - * i_lock does not serialize with i_mutex at all, but it does
>> > - * not matter if sometimes we wait unnecessarily, or
>> > sometimes
>> > - * miss out on waiting: we just need to make those cases
>> > rare.
>> > - */
>> > - if (shmem_falloc) {
>> > + if (shmem_falloc &&
>> > + shmem_falloc->waitq &&
>>
>> Here it's operating outside of lock.
>
> No, it's inside the lock: just easier to see from the patched source
> than from the patch itself.
Ah, right :/
> Hugh
>
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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@gmail.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] shmem: fix faulting into a hole, not taking i_mutex
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 09:18:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53C62757.9080501@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1407151156110.3571@eggly.anvils>
On 07/15/2014 09:26 PM, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>>
>> > @@ -760,7 +760,7 @@ static int shmem_writepage(struct page *
>> > spin_lock(&inode->i_lock);
>> > shmem_falloc = inode->i_private;
>>
>> Without ACCESS_ONCE, can shmem_falloc potentially become an alias on
>> inode->i_private and later become re-read outside of the lock?
>
> No, it could be re-read inside the locked section (which is okay since
> the locking ensures the same value would be re-read each time), but it
> cannot be re-read after the unlock. The unlock guarantees that (whereas
> an assignment after the unlock might be moved up before the unlock).
>
> I searched for a simple example (preferably not in code written by me!)
> to convince you. I thought it would be easy to find an example of
>
> spin_lock(&lock);
> thing_to_free = whatever;
> spin_unlock(&lock);
> if (thing_to_free)
> free(thing_to_free);
>
> but everything I hit upon was actually a little more complicated than
> than that (e.g. involving whatever(), or setting whatever = NULL after),
> and therefore less convincing. Please hunt around to convince yourself.
Yeah, I thought myself on the way home that this is probably the case. I guess
some recent bugs made me too paranoid. Sorry for the noise and time you spent
explaining this :/
>>
>> > - if (!shmem_falloc ||
>> > - shmem_falloc->mode != FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE ||
>> > - vmf->pgoff < shmem_falloc->start ||
>> > - vmf->pgoff >= shmem_falloc->next)
>> > - shmem_falloc = NULL;
>> > - spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
>> > - /*
>> > - * i_lock has protected us from taking shmem_falloc seriously
>> > - * once return from shmem_fallocate() went back up that
>> > stack.
>> > - * i_lock does not serialize with i_mutex at all, but it does
>> > - * not matter if sometimes we wait unnecessarily, or
>> > sometimes
>> > - * miss out on waiting: we just need to make those cases
>> > rare.
>> > - */
>> > - if (shmem_falloc) {
>> > + if (shmem_falloc &&
>> > + shmem_falloc->waitq &&
>>
>> Here it's operating outside of lock.
>
> No, it's inside the lock: just easier to see from the patched source
> than from the patch itself.
Ah, right :/
> Hugh
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-16 7:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-15 10:28 [PATCH 0/2] shmem: fix faulting into a hole while it's punched, take 3 Hugh Dickins
2014-07-15 10:28 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-15 10:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] shmem: fix faulting into a hole, not taking i_mutex Hugh Dickins
2014-07-15 10:31 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-15 16:07 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-15 16:07 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-15 19:26 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-15 19:26 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-16 7:18 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2014-07-16 7:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-25 14:25 ` Michal Hocko
2014-07-25 14:25 ` Michal Hocko
2014-07-15 10:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] shmem: fix splicing from a hole while it's punched Hugh Dickins
2014-07-15 10:33 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-25 14:33 ` Michal Hocko
2014-07-25 14:33 ` Michal Hocko
2014-07-17 16:10 ` [PATCH 0/2] shmem: fix faulting into a hole while it's punched, take 3 Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-17 16:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-17 16:12 ` Sasha Levin
2014-07-17 16:12 ` Sasha Levin
2014-07-18 10:44 ` Sasha Levin
2014-07-18 10:44 ` Sasha Levin
2014-07-19 23:44 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-19 23:44 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-22 3:24 ` Sasha Levin
2014-07-22 3:24 ` Sasha Levin
2014-07-22 8:07 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-22 8:07 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-22 10:06 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-22 10:06 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-22 12:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-22 12:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-22 18:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-22 18:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-22 23:19 ` Sasha Levin
2014-07-22 23:19 ` Sasha Levin
2014-07-22 23:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-22 23:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-17 23:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-17 23:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-18 8:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-18 8:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
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