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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, mtosatti@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ensure guest's kvmclock never goes backwards when TSC jumps backward
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 12:18:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53C6517D.9090600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1405504368-5581-1-git-send-email-imammedo@redhat.com>

Il 16/07/2014 11:52, Igor Mammedov ha scritto:
> There are buggy hosts in the wild that advertise invariant
> TSC and as result host uses TSC as clocksource, but TSC on
> such host sometimes sporadically jumps backwards.
>
> This causes kvmclock to go backwards if host advertises
> PVCLOCK_TSC_STABLE_BIT, which turns off aggregated clock
> accumulator and returns:
>   pvclock_vcpu_time_info.system_timestamp + offset
> where 'offset' is calculated using TSC.
> Since TSC is not virtualized in KVM, it makes guest see
> TSC jumped backwards and leads to kvmclock going backwards
> as well.
>
> This is defensive patch that keeps per CPU last clock value
> and ensures that clock will never go backwards even with
> using PVCLOCK_TSC_STABLE_BIT enabled path.

I'm not sure that a per-CPU value is enough; your patch can make the 
problem much less frequent of course, but I'm not sure neither detection 
nor correction are 100% reliable.  Your addition is basically a faster 
but less reliable version of the last_value logic.

If may be okay to have detection that is faster but not 100% reliable. 
However, once you find that the host is buggy I think the correct thing 
to do is to write last_value and kill PVCLOCK_TSC_STABLE_BIT from 
valid_flags.

Did you check that the affected host has the latest microcode? 
Alternatively, could we simply blacklist some CPU steppings?  I'm not 
sure who we could ask at AMD :( but perhaps there is an erratum.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-16 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-16  9:52 [PATCH] ensure guest's kvmclock never goes backwards when TSC jumps backward Igor Mammedov
2014-07-16 10:18 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2014-07-16 11:41   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-07-16 13:55     ` Igor Mammedov
2014-07-16 14:16       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-16 14:51         ` Igor Mammedov
2014-07-16 14:55           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-16 15:18             ` Igor Mammedov

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